Losing Job

[Erik]

I have room for you, but I DO have 5 dogs and two are in the house.... They love cats though

yup. think they're DEE-lish... but seriously Sush -- take the trip - even if you don't get a job here, you could use the break.

 

[Deadly Sushi]

As far as moving..... how do I move my furniture? Do I leave it all here in storage?
I HAVE to take my little buddies.

take the trip - even if you don't get a job here, you could use the break.

I cant man I need to manage my accounts. There is still a chance I can hit it big with one account that I have.

I can teach you to drive in the EXACT spots I learned. You can fly direct into ICT from ORD any day of the week. I have room for you, but I DO have 5 dogs and two are in the house.... They love cats though

Where do you live? FIVE dogs???? My dad has one and I cant breathe around em. <------ cough
Its funny..... I was about 12 and my dad asked me what I wanted to do. I told him I wanted to be a truck driver!!!!!!!!!! Then he told me theres no way in HELL my son is going to do that. What a jerk huh?

 

[rback33]

As far as moving..... how do I move my furniture? Do I leave it all here in storage?
I HAVE to take my little buddies.

Sell it. Make that shiny new truck yer home....

I cant man I need to manage my accounts. There is still a chance I can hit it big with one account that I have.

When will you know this? Will you keep from stroking out before then?

Where do you live? FIVE dogs???? My dad has one and I cant breathe around em. <------ cough
Its funny..... I was about 12 and my dad asked me what I wanted to do. I told him I wanted to be a truck driver!!!!!!!!!! Then he told me theres no way in HELL my son is going to do that. What a jerk huh?

Hour and 15 min North and west of the Wichita, KS airport (ICT)
Good time to prove the dick wrong and head out on the open road.

 

[Spiffy1]

There is still a chance I can hit it big with one account that I have.

Hey, now there's a positive attitude, Sushi!

I typed a post last night encouraging you to hang in there whether you decided to stay or find a new job, but the storm killed my satellite connection about the time I hit submit!

So does this mean things are working out, or you're still looking? When you find that "dream job" point the way: Things got way too crazy for me and I'm looking too. Nearly living at the plant doesn't leave much time for hanging around FF or anything else either! Also, as Bobcat touched on earlier, it's rather frustrating when many of the people around you are working less & have no responibility, but still making more with OT pay.

 

[American Girl]

where's he hidin' the switchblade?

Hmmm...where would he have a hole that he could hide a switchblade in??

Wait! I know! In his ear!

What...? Which hole were YOU thinking of...? Hmmm...???

who ever said she'd be SLEEPING?

No sleep for the weary...the show must go on...

of course with 60 acres for redneck to hide the body once he found out...

So THAT'S what happened to them!!!

Shhhhhhh! About the bodys.....she's been dating for and 15 years now.
Funny........none of them never made it to her room.......

Huh...and all this time I thought there was something wrong with ME that these guys kept changing their minds on me...

I hate to break it to ya momma...but it's more like 20 years of dating...Guess I must have slipped a few by you in the beginning there...

Just don't mention how many did NOT leave.

Wait a minute...I thought you said that big mound in the backyard was our septic tank!!! You mean it's really a mass grave for all those guys I THOUGHT changed their minds?!?!?

 

[dzalphakilo]

But the worst thing is, Ive had 10 jobs in 8 years. No one will hire me with that on my resume.

When I was younger, I probably had 30 jobs in three years.

You can't give up.

You have to have faith in yourself. If you don't have faith in yourself, no one else will.

Perhaps it's time for a move? Start a new life? As long as you can get up in the morning and feel good about yourself, you're ahead of half of the population in this great country.

Personally, first mistake people make is that they think they are too good for ANY job. Take any job and see what you can learn. There are enough idiots out in the workforce that if you take pride in what you do, show up on work for time, and listen to what is told to you, chances are that you will work your way up. Yep, you could end up having assholes for bosses, that's a given in life. However, if you don't give up, sooner or later, something good will hapen.

 

[Deadly Sushi]

When I was younger, I probably had 30 jobs in three years.

You can't give up.

You have to have faith in yourself. If you don't have faith in yourself, no one else will.

Perhaps it's time for a move? Start a new life? As long as you can get up in the morning and feel good about yourself, you're ahead of half of the population in this great country.

Personally, first mistake people make is that they think they are too good for ANY job. Take any job and see what you can learn. There are enough idiots out in the workforce that if you take pride in what you do, show up on work for time, and listen to what is told to you, chances are that you will work your way up. Yep, you could end up having assholes for bosses, that's a given in life. However, if you don't give up, sooner or later, something good will hapen.

Thanks man. I think youre right. It would be good to get away from this area. Thing is thats a tough task. Maybe just moving out to DeKalb, IL might do the trick. Its far, but not TOOOO far and there is a college there. Where theres a college, there are always college chicks. More importantly there are nice normal people in and around that area.

 

[dzalphakilo]

Thanks man. I think youre right. It would be good to get away from this area. Thing is thats a tough task. Maybe just moving out to DeKalb, IL might do the trick. Its far, but not TOOOO far and there is a college there. Where theres a college, there are always college chicks. More importantly there are nice normal people in and around that area.

Remember, no matter how far in distance you move, you can't move away from yourself.

There are "nice normal people" anywhere you live, you just need to know where to look.

As far as college chicks, how old are you?

Honestly, you need to get your priorities in order (if thats what you want).

If chicks are on the priority list, I'd go be a raft guide in West Virginia. Good workout, great tan, great lifestyle, great dope and great girls from D.C and Baltimore. Same thing can be said for the surfers lifestyle.

However, if work and starting a new life is a priority, "chicks" have nothing to do with it. Perhaps a good woman, but not "college chicks".

 

[Spiffy1]

So how did things go today Sushi?

I have to second DZ regarding "chicks" as a factor in your decision.

 

[DaveNay]

More importantly there are nice normal people in and around that area.

NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo...........!!!!!

 

[urednecku]

1) I cant man I need to manage my accounts. There is still a chance I can hit it big with one account that I have.



2) Its funny..... I was about 12 and my dad asked me what I wanted to do. I told him I wanted to be a truck driver!!!!!!!!!! Then he told me theres no way in HELL my son is going to do that. What a jerk huh?

1) And I think I'll quit my job and buy some lottery tickets, "there is a chance I will hit the big one for 30 million or so."
Yes, you might 'hit it big.' You, and you alone, know the chances of that. IF it's a 'good chance', then sitck it out & pray, along with working hard. IF it's the same chance that I'll hit the lottery, then why stay there and stress & starve.

2) Unless your Dad is paying your bills, then do what you wanted to do, you have "FOUND THE WAY IN HELL", and your Dad has NOTHING to do or say about, it.

Like another poster said, If you find a job you really like, you will never have to work a day in your life.

Best of luck friend, & please keep your head up.

 

[Gatorboy]

Drive up to Alaska, and get a job with the Crab fishermen on the Bering Sea. They make some decent money, and get to ride on a boat all day/night.

Watch "The Deadliest Catch" and get a good idea what's involved. If you are as hard of a worker as you say you are, you should be an awesome deckhand.

 

[Galvatron]

Drive up to Alaska, and get a job with the Crab fishermen on the Bering Sea. They make some decent money, and get to ride on a boat all day/night.

Watch "The Deadliest Catch" and get a good idea what's involved. If you are as hard of a worker as you say you are, you should be an awesome deckhand.

Them guys that work in them conditions i salute

 

[Deadly Sushi]

Like another poster said, If you find a job you really like, you will never have to work a day in your life.

That was me who said that!

Anyhow, I found out that the boss is hardcore friends with this other salesguys dad!!! This guy was GIVEN 2 BIG accounts from the person who quit before him. The guy who started with me was the guy who quit. SOOOOO.... I finally found out why those 2 accounts werent given to ME when the guy quit! Plus his nephew works in the department as a sales guy too and I hear HIS accounts were given to him.
Im seeing a trend. You know how many active accounts were mine when I started? ZERO!!! Now I have 11 active accounts but they dont buy that much because they arent HUGE like theirs. I work my ASS off and Im DAMN GOOD and who gets rewarded?!?!?

 

[waybomb]

Jeez Sush. I think you are the only true masochist I know. First Amy Winehouse adoration, then buying an old Ford, and now sticking in a dead-end no-win job.

If what you say is true, once the contract is signed on your big-deal deal, you will be fired and the other kid gets the account.

Get outa that job now, dump the Ford, and get a real girlfriend.

 

[dzalphakilo]

That was me who said that!

Anyhow, I found out that the boss is hardcore friends with this other salesguys dad!!! This guy was GIVEN 2 BIG accounts from the person who quit before him. The guy who started with me was the guy who quit. SOOOOO.... I finally found out why those 2 accounts werent given to ME when the guy quit! Plus his nephew works in the department as a sales guy too and I hear HIS accounts were given to him.
Im seeing a trend. You know how many active accounts were mine when I started? ZERO!!! Now I have 11 active accounts but they dont buy that much because they arent HUGE like theirs. I work my ASS off and Im DAMN GOOD and who gets rewarded?!?!?

Who the hell care what the other guys are doing?

Good salesmen only care about why THEY are doing.

To help you put things into perspective, I was showing some programs to the office manager of one of my customers. I was talking about the pictures she had of her son up on the computer. Little guy is only 4 years old. Talking with her, found out the doctors are giving that little boy 14-20 years to live, max.

No offense Sush, but you come across as a crybaby.

Just go to a whore house and be happy.

 

[rback33]

Who the hell care what the other guys are doing?

Good salesmen only care about why THEY are doing.

To help you put things into perspective, I was showing some programs to the office manager of one of my customers. I was talking about the pictures she had of her son up on the computer. Little guy is only 4 years old. Talking with her, found out the doctors are giving that little boy 14-20 years to live, max.

No offense Sush, but you come across as a crybaby.

Just go to a whore house and be happy.

For crying out loud. Quit teasing us and tell us how you really feel!

 

[Deadly Sushi]

Who the hell care what the other guys are doing?

Good salesmen only care about why THEY are doing.

To help you put things into perspective, I was showing some programs to the office manager of one of my customers. I was talking about the pictures she had of her son up on the computer. Little guy is only 4 years old. Talking with her, found out the doctors are giving that little boy 14-20 years to live, max.

No offense Sush, but you come across as a crybaby.

Just go to a whore house and be happy.

First off.... I DONT look to see what they are doing daily, monthly or quarterly. It has no relevence to me. But what does is how active accounts are dealt. Before I left today a nice woman in accounting told me that Im doing great and to not let anything get to me and then she told me about some of the things going on. Im pissed and dissapointed because Im the one working my ass off. How is that being a crybaby?
And bringing up that terminaly ill kid is just idiotic. Did you call that kid a crybaby because there is a Chinese kid that lost his legs and eyesight and is homeless and will probably die via a pack of wolves eating him while he hunts for berries in a sea of poison ivy?
You can always come up with a situation thats worse than someone else. Im scared shitless. I cant sleep well, Im getting major heart palpitations and I almost went into a full panic attack yesterday talking to a client.
Im trying to stay as positive as I can and I think I have the freakin RIGHT to not be thrilled about certain things. You kicked me when I was down before and you did it again now.

 

[American Woman]

Sushi, some people just aren't good at trying to cheer ya up. Sometimes they stick their foot in their mouth. Your problems are real and they deserve to be acknowledged also.
There are a lot of bad things going on in the world. Some are worse than others. YOU are the here and now for us and we care what you are feeling.

 

[mtntopper]

Slushi, sympathy can only last so long. You have told us time and again about the injustice you are being dealt. We have all made suggestions and supported you through this period. Now, it is time for you to do something to take care of yourself and make the situation right. Either leave the company and find a new job or go to the company leadership and ask them to make it right. You are the one ultimately responsible for turning this and your life around not us. Support for you can only go so far unless you support your self and your position when you are continually yelling foul. Hollering fire too often makes the world deaf to your screaming.

Just my .02 worth. I hope you look at yourself and see the light of day finally and do the right thing. It is time to go on and put this behind you.

 

[Deadly Sushi]

and your position when you are continually yelling foul. Hollering fire too often makes the world deaf to your screaming.

Im taking everyones advice into consideration. I have a HUGE amount to think about and changing ones life isnt a split-second decision. Above anything I just dont want to make the right decision, I NEED to. If certain acounts hit soon and there is a decent chance of that, I wont get fired and hopefully that boss of mine will back off. I just hope he isnt out to have the business that I dug up transfered to his nephew or the other guy. Things 3 weeks ago were looking fantastic. I was told Im doing a great job and for things to change so quickly REALLY makes me think especially after what that woman told me from accounting today. Im a nervous freakin wreck. Also Im not continuing "yelling foul" just to do so. Im writing whats new under the thread. My intention isnt "hollering fire". Your making it sound like Im a whiney little bitch or the kid that cried wolf. Neither are correct. I AM going through a lot of "fire" and Im telling folks about it. Call it posting or blogging or whatever. Im just giving an update.
Its like Im defending myself now for posting this freaking crap situation Im in. Im stressed out as it is. I get a large amount of folks that care about me and want to know whats going on and then I DO it and keep folks updated and then I get kicked in the teeth by one guy and then told Im "hollering fire" too often by another. *banging head on desk*

 

[Mainer]

I'm not up to speed on the Sushi-life but I gave you some advice a while back. With my superficial knowledge of your situation, please forgive anything that is annoying...

1. Sales sucks in terms of personal/mental reward. It's about jamming business and saying whatever people need to hear to close and pump revenue. All---yes, there are exceptions to this but this is generally sales.

2. Sales managers are generally cut-throat so expect no long-term friendly behavior...the advice I'd given you previously applied to a situation where your manager is a horror show ... he is clearly ethically challenged.

3. Every relationship you have in your work place in sales will be leveraged politically in some way.

4. Your company sounds like it is not well footed and given the economy whether or not you hit your numbers...many companies look at yield per sales rep and cut bait when they hit it big...like bailing out of a casino with cash in hand. I've seen it before...huge wins and then the bullet to the back of the head.

5. You've hopped around just about as often as most sales guys...expect to continue to unless you get out of sales. Sales sucks from an inner-reward perspective but can be very financially rewarding if you hit on all cylinders *and* you work for a good company...ie, look at EMC sales reps or Oracle or Caterpillar or Verizon ... and many have several homes paid off, swimming in cash from closing deals...at any cost...even at the cost of repeat business! Good for them, bad for company...but often they are not tracked or they avoid blame.

6. You have a lot to think about but you've been thinking about this for a while. If you are naturally risk averse then you need to do something that probably will feel uncomfortable like leaving to a new role in a different company...or small business, etc...

Anyway, I don't think you're crying wolf... I think you're just open and honest about what's happening in your life. I do think you need to get the hell out of that company and also consider getting out of sales...not because you cant' do it but because it generally sucks and no matter where you go... it will continue to suck...it may suck less but still it will suck, in general.

My 2 cents... get the hell out of there and get out of sales. Do it. I know people who wait and think and wait and consider and live in constant turmoil...up and down and right and left... you ARE in a situation like that and you have been considering this for a while (I think I gave you feedback months ago and it had clearly been going on for months prior to that).

I don't mean to offend anyone in sales out there that is very happy... nor imply that all sales folks are ethically challenged. However, I've worked with many (I'm not in sales nor could anyone EVER pay me enough to be in sales), and found the vast majority to fall into the category of 'close sale at all costs' which includes dishonest practices. I made my last advice to Sushi directly rather than post... but thought this general enough. Please don't turn this into anyone's personal defense about sales as this post applies to Sushi's current professional situation. Personally, my job is filled with politics every single minute... I'd love to be a logger running a skidder or haul snow cats behind a dually across the country... but I do like what I do but tons and tons of politics come with it.

 

[urednecku]

Sushi, we are just saying it's time for you to do something. Shit or get off the pot. How long are you going to wait for the accounts to "maybe" come in? " If certain accounts hit soon" IF is the biggest word in the English language. When is "soon"? a day, week, month or year??? Listen to your-self. Ask your-self exactly WHAT is keeping you there, why can you not do something else. We have tried to help you. A lot of people, your friends, have spent a lot of time trying to find something for you. It's time for you to do something.

 

[Galvatron]

eh Sushi.....have a read back through the thread pick out the 5 most appealing suggestions and run a poll.......go with the winning vote and just call it fate....nothing to lose my friend

 

[dzalphakilo]

Your making it sound like Im a whiney little bitch

no comment

 

[Gatorboy]

Your making it sound like Im a whiney little bitch ...

No need for anyone else to make it sound that way, you are doing it all by yourself.

 

[rback33]

As promised I got a reply from my uncle in the Chicago area. He admits it is a longshot, but he wants a resume and other detailed info about his skills, interests and so on. My uncle knows a lot of people up there and has been in marketing for several HUGE companies before jetting off to start his own.

I have another idea and maybe it's a bad one, but here it is. There is this special button for "Private Forums." I have no idea what is in there since I am not a member of any, but maybe we could have a special friend of Squishy forum. Then those of us that want to help and give constructive criticism could do so and we would not have to worry about emotionally challenged people kicking a man while he is down. I know the group of challenged people is small and it seems that they would just avoid the thread but that does not happen.

 

[mtntopper]

Mainer, all of life is selling. For a great job not in sales you still must sell yourself as the best candidate for the job and then you must prove it on a daily basis or you will not last. A laborer doing manual work is selling his abilities as much as a car salesman is selling his talent/abilities when talking the little old lady into a new Hummer.

A good salesperson will go far in life and a bad one will be stuck wherever they land in life.

Yes, I have been a salesperson for most of my life. That is the reason I was able to retire and kick back at an early age. Selling a product or myself for a job was very good to me even when I did "honest" labor jobs prior to being a "real" salesperson.

 

[Deadly Sushi]

Seriously Speaking Heartbreaking Stories, Love Life or Family issues, Prayer requests, Serious Discussion only. No joking or smart-alecky remarks

Ehhhhh screw you Gatorface. You too dzalphakilo. Its if some folks enjoy kicking a guy when he is down. I would never do that to you or anyone else in here. And especially not in this section of the forum.

 

[Gatorboy]

Who is joking or being smart-alecky? I'm just telling it as I see it -- sorry if I don't give you the warm and fuzzy pep-talk you are seeking.