Snowy Rivers
Well-known member
I would agree.....
The castings are thinner than the old "Bricks" used in decades past.
Now here is a question I am hearing multiple answers for...
HEAD BOLTS
The bolts that came out of the Vortec are marked with the standard 6 marks in the head indicating a grade 8 bolt.
GM says that the bolts are to be torqued to 20 ft lb and then using a torque angle meter tightened to so many degrees more
55" on the small bolts, 65" on the medium bolts and 75" degrees on the long ones.
The net is full of statements on these bolts being TORQUE TO YIELD "TTY"
GM TECH bulletin says the bolts may be reused as long as they are in good condition and the threads are not damaged or the bolts stretched....
The L31 VORTEC head bolts look just like the head bolts that small block Chevies have used for many decades.
We used to torque to 20 lbs on pass 1........45 lbs on pass 2 and then finish with 65 lbs on pass 3
After reading the writeup on the reason for using the torque angle meter .....it makes sense that tightening a specified amount more past the 20 lb pass 1 will put the tension where the engineers think they want it......Every threaded hole is different and torque readings can vary from what the actual tension needed is in the real world.
I am quite familiar with TTY bolts and have replaced them in several engines that use them....
From what I can glean from all the articles on the subject....There seems to be a lot of folks that believe that just because the mfg says to use a Torque angle meter that the bolts are TTY.
This makes a simple job far tougher than it needs to be......
The castings are thinner than the old "Bricks" used in decades past.
Now here is a question I am hearing multiple answers for...
HEAD BOLTS
The bolts that came out of the Vortec are marked with the standard 6 marks in the head indicating a grade 8 bolt.
GM says that the bolts are to be torqued to 20 ft lb and then using a torque angle meter tightened to so many degrees more
55" on the small bolts, 65" on the medium bolts and 75" degrees on the long ones.
The net is full of statements on these bolts being TORQUE TO YIELD "TTY"
GM TECH bulletin says the bolts may be reused as long as they are in good condition and the threads are not damaged or the bolts stretched....
The L31 VORTEC head bolts look just like the head bolts that small block Chevies have used for many decades.
We used to torque to 20 lbs on pass 1........45 lbs on pass 2 and then finish with 65 lbs on pass 3
After reading the writeup on the reason for using the torque angle meter .....it makes sense that tightening a specified amount more past the 20 lb pass 1 will put the tension where the engineers think they want it......Every threaded hole is different and torque readings can vary from what the actual tension needed is in the real world.
I am quite familiar with TTY bolts and have replaced them in several engines that use them....
From what I can glean from all the articles on the subject....There seems to be a lot of folks that believe that just because the mfg says to use a Torque angle meter that the bolts are TTY.
This makes a simple job far tougher than it needs to be......