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1975 Tucker 1544 - project and trips

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I'm confused (easily done, unfortunately).

I am under the impression you have Dana 60 axle assemblies in your Tucker... but the exploded view diagram in post 320 is from a Dana 44.

All of our Tuckers have Dana 60 axle assemblies and we use these.

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They are Spicer part number 30637, and are frequently sold in a box of ten.

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If you elect to use those and you can't get them at a reasonable price, shoot me a PM. I've got some spares and I'll send you a set.
i thought it was a Dana 60 as well. But the axles are 6 stud and these washers come up as Dana 44.
The Eaton Locker I ordered for the front diff was for a Dana 60 and it fits. So I don’t know now.
 
YamaDoo, may I ask what you do for a living?
Mechanic perhaps?
I started out flying helicopters in 1974 and retired those wings in 2019. During that time I also owned a autowrecker, built a golf course, owned a dozen trucks for my Esso dealership, built a pub and owned two liquor stores. Sold it all. First summer I had off was in 2020, I’m getting used to enjoying summer holidays.
I’ve always tinkered with equipment.
 
First look at how my Tip Toe Cat is going to look.
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Yes that would be them. Would anyone have an International or Spicer part number for these washers? I’m hoping one of our local dealers can order the parts if I can get them a good part number.
gl or gh guyette. is a us company. they have all kinds of locking hardware, when i get up and moving ill find an invoice. i have been able to find all the weird sae hardwaerw snowtracs use.

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I started out flying helicopters in 1974 and retired those wings in 2019. During that time I also owned a autowrecker, built a golf course, owned a dozen trucks for my Esso dealership, built a pub and owned two liquor stores. Sold it all. First summer I had off was in 2020, I’m getting used to enjoying summer holidays.
I’ve always tinkered with equipment.


Seems like an amazing life! 🙂
 
I found your IH cross searching another forum. IF you can find it, the part number is 65678r1. After you see the price, you'll end up back at the Torque King website. Holy cow. The info I found was from 10 years ago:
https://www.binderplanet.com/forums/index.php?threads/spindle-nut-lock-washer.24935/#post-840093
this statement is the death of forums. meta has destroyed binder planet. ff is slowing. the meta product just whores out users to trend data. the info flows away..... threaded forums the info stays put.

 
Why not just order online from that link? I love and support local business but find if it’s not a car or truck they lookup it’s a waste of time.

Can I get an oil filter for a slant 6? What’s it in? Tucker sno cat. Answer cant look it up. That’s why we are all here.

BFT had a good thread on this issue recently.
I ordered on line at Torque King. They will ship via USPS.
 
Found a good solution online for removing those nasty push in grease nipples. Take apart an old grease gun coupler and stick washers in so that the coupler can not release. Hook up the coupler to a slide hammer and out comes the grease nipple.
Takes a bit of messing around but I managed to pull 4 out.
Then I drill and tap to take a new nipple.

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Getting the horn button off the steering wheel was a little more technical that I thought. I had to remove the cover rubber then insert two small screwdrivers in two of the 4 slots, and used them for purchase for a third screwdriver to rotate the Bacalite horn button. Then it came off.

The wiring down through the steering column was fine, but the corrosion under the metal parts in the horn was the problem. Cleaned up reassembled and changed relay out to the the standard 4 prong and everything works properly.

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Installed two way radio today. Will be used for talking to forestry contractors, road crews and to other club members in cabin and on side by sides.
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I think these two pictures illustrate what I hope to achieve.
The tip toe has less work to do in traveling through a 6” crust for example. This also applies as the snow gets deeper. Less work than trying to push the track straight into the snow face. Let the track climb a bit.

This what it looks like with the track weight on the shop floor.

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I'm confused (easily done, unfortunately).

I am under the impression you have Dana 60 axle assemblies in your Tucker... but the exploded view diagram in post 320 is from a Dana 44.

All of our Tuckers have Dana 60 axle assemblies and we use these.

View attachment 169984

They are Spicer part number 30637, and are frequently sold in a box of ten.

View attachment 169985

If you elect to use those and you can't get them at a reasonable price, shoot me a PM. I've got some spares and I'll send you a set.

It was bugging me about what diffs were installed in my Tucker, so I did a measurement on the diff housings.
The Dana 44 is 10 1/2" and the Dana 60 is 12" tall. The diffs in my Tucker are the Dana 60, but I don't know why the hub lock washers are Dana 44's. And why are there only 6 bolts on the axle to the hub?
Maybe the axles are smaller? The splines obviously fit, but maybe the 8 stud axles shafts are bigger in diameter?
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six bolt axles are a tucker thing.

i forget which BOM number you need, but switching the hub out is the way to be frugal should you break an axle
 
Does the front damper wheel still support the track on the tip tac toe mod when tightened per Tucker specs?

That front adjuster takes extreme forces into the box tube which now has a leveraged wheel mount instead of close to workable linear.

Most Tucker mods result in failure elsewhere. They made the best worst solution on the pow.
 
The front wheel and its adjusting slide still support the track under tension.
However, when thinking of the track frame as it was normally, as the track approaches an obstacle to climb over, normally the weight of the Tucker would be immediately supported by the rear wheel and the front wheel. That is quite a bit of leverage force.

With the TipToe the weight would be slid back under the front wheel towards the second wheel somewhat, making less stress on the front wheel and its slider mechanism. It would be even better for me to tip up the fixed rear wheel on the frame as well. But, one is enough for now.

Tucker has also adopted this idea in their new small cat with the V6.

A picture of Tucker Cat system.
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I’m more worried about how my upper idler wheels will hold up as I’m in unknown territory there.
 
I have been wondering where Tucker sourced the 6 bolt axle and hub on my Tucker Dana 60 differentials.
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I was able to do a search in a parts book at the local auto parts store to figure out who used the CR26921 inner hub seal.
The only place that seal number showed up was for an International Truck on the 1/2 ton (with dual wheels?) using the Spicer 60 from 1957 to 1975.
It is not even the Dana 60.
I was hoping finding the seal would help me locate where the Dana 60 axle with the 6 bolt flange was used. But struck out.

Anyone know who used the Dana 6 bolt 30 slime axles?
 
six bolt axles are a tucker thing.

i forget which BOM number you need, but switching the hub out is the way to be frugal should you break an axle
Redsqwrl I think you are correct.
I’d like to get this information nailed down for future reference, and while I have stuff apart to measure.
So does the 8 stud axle come with 30 spline? And the 8 stud hub use the same ID for those bearings and spacing to fit the Dana 60 housing I have?
The 6 stud axle is 36” long. I assume the 8 stud axle will be close as the 8 stud hub flange face might be slightly further or closer?
Any info on what year and make used the 30 spline and 8 stud hub? I’d like to track down a hub to trial fit.
Thanks much.
 
I was reviewing the information I found yesterday and noticed that not only does the seal number I found match, but so does the inner and outer bearing numbers match.
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Now I’m looking for axle and bolt patterns for the hub.
Maybe …..
 
I'm chewing on the 6 bolt versus 8 bolt hubs on the Dana 60's.
I've seen pictures of 6 and 8 bolt axle heads on various old International trucks, but can not find any interchange info.
So an easy place to start is if anyone happens to have hub off and can take some measurements? If the housing stub is the same that would nice. The housing measures ...
The inner bearing surface is 2.07"
The outer is 1.78"
The seal is 2.69"

The outer bearing number for the 6 bolt is BR 25584
The inner bearing is BR 28584

So if anyone has any numbers kicking around for the 8 bolt hub bearings and housing measurements, chime in please.
 
I'm confused (easily done, unfortunately).

I am under the impression you have Dana 60 axle assemblies in your Tucker... but the exploded view diagram in post 320 is from a Dana 44.

All of our Tuckers have Dana 60 axle assemblies and we use these.

View attachment 169984

They are Spicer part number 30637, and are frequently sold in a box of ten.

View attachment 169985

If you elect to use those and you can't get them at a reasonable price, shoot me a PM. I've got some spares and I'll send you a set.
Was wondering if you could take an internal measurement of those washers. That would tell me right away if there are different Dana 60 housings. The lock washers I have are 1 3/4” internal measurement.
 
Was wondering if you could take an internal measurement of those washers. That would tell me right away if there are different Dana 60 housings. The lock washers I have are 1 3/4” internal measurement.
I measured two different ones, and two measurements on each. The ID varied between 1.812-1.828.
 
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