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Welcome Snow Trac Owners

JimVT said:
you got some incorrect information if it is for Washington. yes register it as a snowmobile. this has been gone over many times on this fourm.
jim
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Jim:
Curious: Washingtons state law about what is a snowmobile is about( OK, almost verbatim) the same as Oregons: To be a snowmobile you must:(RCW 46.04.546) (ORS 801.490) (Definition required for snowmobile) (WA condition 2)(OR condition 3)) "is steered wholly or in part by skis or sled type runners."

Is there a letter of interpretation or other Washington statute that clarifies this that you know of? My Father in law wants me to come play outside of Spokane this winter. In Oregon, Snowcats (other than old ski steered tuckers and the like) are not snowmobiles according to our DMV and are neither licensed nor titled.

Not trying to stir the pot, but to have the weasels in a row.
Tom




 
danoneal said:
Hi there,
My name is Dan and recently acquired a 1965 Snow Trac #708.
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Dan: Congratulations and/ or condolences as required. Ebay lists several straitjackets, might as well get one now.

Hope to meet you on the trail sometime
Tom
 
danoneal said:
Hi there,
My name is Dan and recently acquired a 1965 Snow Trac #708. He is currently making his way down from Kenai, Alaska to the Seattle area and we are very excited to receive him. I am looking for some advice as to how to register him. Is my only option to register him as ORV as he has no skis he can not be registered as a snow mobile. How much does this limit where he can and can't go. I have heard about the jamboree in Leavenworth. What type of license is needed to participate in this event? I have enjoyed the information I have gotten from this forum so far and what ever advice you can offer would be welcomed as I have never driven a Snow Trac as yet. I look forward to meeting others with information and interest.
Dan O
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I recognize that one and can provide some info it was purchaced from Brandon I kenai member caribue hills 17 purchased it
he put it together and got it running I may have sent out some track parts for him I can't remember but it appears to be in real nice shape there for a while before Brandons shop caught fire he was rebuilding them for resale.
 
Thank you for your replies. So just how do you get them to classify as a snow mobile in Washington state? How much do I gain by registering as snow mobile?
Dan O
 

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just tell them you want one. they all cost the same. I think 25bucks a year and you should get a vintage one.
you probably will gain nothing . I'm sure you know that they come with a parking sticker and is needed for your tow vehicle parking if you use a snowpark. you may get by with a Oregon one .
2014 jamboree isn't at a snowpark.
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Re: Jim

Thank you and sorry for the late response. This will help when licensing my new toy I hope to be ready for the jamboree. Been working on the little fellow. The best way to get to know anything new. Couple issues with wheels but everything seems to be in pretty good shape.
 
Hello, just joined the Snow Trac club last week with the purchase of ST4 #1948, former ambulance from Alaska pipeline. It will be used as my new family snow toy here in Northern California.



 
Hello

Anyone have information on removing the transmission and putting taller gears on drive sprockets for snowmaster? I want to get at least another 5-10mph out of it.
 
Hiya, just joined. I've been a lurker for a good few years now though.:shifty:

I'm a VW guy at heart and became interested in Snow tracs while at college.
The college had been gifted this 1981 registered model after it had been retired from Mountain Rescue duty.
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We used it as a play thing for a while in the mid 90's. I tried to buy it but it wasn't for sale.
Its probably still sat in one of their sheds now.
 
Not sure how many were used as Ambulances in the UK. This is the only one i know of and mine is the only picture i've been able to find of it online.

The Mountain Rescue retired it as there was less and less snow each year so it was only used a few times each winter. Their Land Rovers could get to 90% of the places it could and were cheaper to run/maintain so they just gave it away. :(
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robert from Timmins Ont. Canada . I just recently picked up a 72 snow dozer 250 st with 29 inches tracks , 6 cyl ford looks like a 300 ind, did a tune up ,runs real good and quiet, needs muffler, tracks are ok , solid fronts and foam filed rest of them, rear sprocket look new, engine runs cold, so I need thermostat,, but looks like a job to do that.. pics coming soon, cab is rough but fixable ,, looks like a good web site, I like the info a guy can get here, thanks
robert...
 
I would like to add my latest purchase, Snow Trac #599. This is a former Army Snow Trac and I plan on returning it to it's Army colors. You can see the military tail lights. Along with this machine a twin parts Snow Trac was purchased as well still in it's military colors. I will post more pictures of the original paint when I pick up the parts machine. Very low hours and very little wear.

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Here is Snow-Trac #291. Found this near Coeur d'Alene Idaho. Needs some work but will make a nice machine when finished. Still need to find some parts, but have found some already.

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And here is what is left of Snow-Trac #603. Both #599 and #603 were owned by the Army but only #599 survived in running condition. #603 does have some good parts that I can use to put #291 back together.

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one easy way to id a military snow trac is by the lifting hook that is next to the window at the rear of the hood.
 
JimVT said:
one easy way to id a military snow trac is by the lifting hook that is next to the window at the rear of the hood.
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True of the European Military models. But my feeling is that the Snow Trac was never intended in our military as a standard issue motor pool machine. More of a stop gap type of machine for emergency use only. That was what those Snow Trac's were designated for at D.E.W radar sites for instance, emergency use only... No parts or service in the field. Nor do I believe any military historian would list a Snow Trac as a military tracked machine. So few of them in our services..

The lift hooks appeared after the acquisition of the rights and manufacturing were sold to Ackiv, and were only on the three band big wheel versions from what I have been able to find out. Those machines also feature a square plate on the nose with a short length of pipe welded on to it. This was the receiver for a ridged hitch that pinned into the pipe for towing a dead machine.. This version I don't think were purchased by our military. All I have come to know about in our military are two band earlier machines.. Execpt for one in Alaska, Don found in a town North of Nome. A Navy machine, three band tracks and the tall cab to boot... It has no lift hooks either, as I recall from Don's pictures..

In Michigan there were trials on a military base of all terrain type vehicals in the early 60's.. I don't know of the base name, but remember reading about this trial here on this forum some were... Could it be these machines could have been part of that trial? IF only they could talk...

Regards, Kirk
 
One must also remember that the US military could, and does buy equipment COTS (Commercial Off The Shelf). The off the shelf stuff wasn't intended for warfare use. Base support operations, and special projects were the usual culprits of COTS. They would get a military number and sometimes paint. As an example Keesler AFB had both military ambulances and COTS (southern ) The military was green ,hardened. The Southern was a POS done on least bid.

So you could get both the nato/military version and the COTS version with military ID.

And then there was the nearly military crap. The CUCV stuff comes to mind. Just enough military that it wasn't normal, but not enough that it stood up well.
 
Is there anyone out there who knows where I might find both large ST34 chain drive sprockets as both mine have broken teeth? I have found a local machine shop who can make them for me but $$$. I'm not sure if I am posting to the right place or how to but let's give it a shot. Any help would be great. Dan
 
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