The Myth of the Holocaust

[Wannafish]

To lighten this up a bit...

"In this day and age it amazes me what still is being said. How can people be so stupid?"

Oh, I don't know...When my Grandmother passed away 3 years ago she STILL didn't believe we landed on the moon - claimed it was a government conspiracy!


Now, back to the fun -

"If someone does not like what they see as inconsistancies here, they know where the door is."
If the world (well, at least us here in the U.S.A.) understood and practiced that statement, this would be a better place to live...IMO.

"Pot calling the kettle black comes to mind!"
ROFLMAO !

 

[OkeeDon]

"Pot calling the kettle black comes to mind!"

HAW!

 

[Melensdad]

Well back onto the topic. Is there really anyone left who doesn't believe in the holocaust (or that we actually landed on the moon)?

And what about the concept of moving Israel to Europe, or perhaps to the US? While I think Brian's suggestion of a 2 mile wide country on our border might not be the best, I would suggest that S.W. Texas along the Mexican border or possibly southern New Mexico or southern Arizona would be good spots. The climate would be reasonably close to Israel, but would not have the ocean (Mediterranian Sea) view. It would also be logical to place it on our border so the nation is not completely surrounded by the US on all sides.

 

[Doc]

I have a feeling it would be much like the arugments you see when they plan to build a halfway house in your neighborhood. No one wants it in their neighborhood, but it's okay to build it elsewhere. SE or SW Texas is okay from my buckeye perspective.

But realisticly, they will never move from their "Holy Land" willingly; IMHO.

 

[XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq]

I don't see a lot of compassion, consideration of diversity, or even respect for others coming out of Iran or the rest of the middle east. Why do we need to claim some moral high ground?

The second you allow compassion to enter a bar fight is the minute I kick you in the balls and beat the sh*t out of you.

I guarantee you that if we are naive enough to allow these other guys to get the ability to hurt us then they will use that ability.

Take your PC, anti-racist, do-gooder crap over to Tehran and spew it where it is needed most. All this hyper-sensitivity around race is such a double standard it isn't funny.

 

[Melensdad]

But realisticly, they will never move from their "Holy Land" willingly; IMHO.

Well they gave up the Gaza strip and some other areas, so they are willing to give up "land for peace." And while there are some Holy cities and sites that could not be transported, I wonder if they gave up all their land and someone else gave them an equivalent amount of land, if that would not resolve many of the world's problems.

• The Palestinians would have what they claim is their homeland.
• The Muslim nations would have achieved their goals of (1)removing the Jews from the middle east, and (2) giving the Palestinians a homeland of their own.
• Al-Quadia (sp?) would no longer have their arguement that the west is supressing the formation of a Palestinian state.
• The US would be able to reduce its foreign aid budget to Israel because it would not have to support the Iraeli Army financially.
• Israel would be able to spend more of its budget on some of the things it innovates like science and agricultural production.

It strikes me that we could provide them a patch of ground on the Rio Grande southeast of El Paso but in reasonable proximity to El Paso so the infrastructure could be extended out from the El Paso area?

 

[XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq]

It strikes me that we could provide them a patch of ground on the Rio Grande southeast of El Paso but in reasonable proximity to El Paso so the infrastructure could be extended out from the El Paso area?

Oh great Bob. Now we'll have the Native American Liberation Organization doing suicide bombings in our back yard.

Seems to me that Israel can defend itself and their biggest problem is from the rest of the world meddling with their defense of their borders.

 

[Melensdad]

Well if you can think of another place that we can move them to resolve all the problems I outlined above then I am certainly open to suggestions!!!

Somewhere in Europe would be good, but I don't think there is enough open land anywhere there to start a new country. . . unless we give the France I doubt that France would/could put up much of a fight. But I don't really see too many places in the world that we could relocate them too. There is plenty of space in the upper plains states and along the Canadian border, but that is a pretty drastic climate change for people who are currently living in a very temperate climate zone. So I go back to the general southwest. Similar climate, open land. And minimal needs to relocate too many people.

 

[XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq]

I'd still prefer to just beat the rest of the world into submission. Otherwise, bring them over here. As you've stated they are some good (great) people.

I think we could just line up some big dozers and push San Francisco into the ocean wipe the area clean and then give them that area. Win - Win in my books.

Can we leave a few nuclear booby traps over there after the last person has left?

 

[DaveNay]

I'd still prefer to just beat the rest of the world into submission. Otherwise, bring them over here. As you've stated they are some good (great) people.

I think we could just line up some big dozers and push San Francisco into the ocean wipe the area clean and then give them that area. Win - Win in my books.

Can we leave a few nuclear booby traps over there after the last person has left?

With all due respect to Don, I think we could abandon Florida and let them have that. No fears of Castro acting up then if he would have to face the Israeli Air Force.

 

[Melensdad]

With all due respect to Don, I think we could abandon Florida and let them have that. No fears of Castro acting up then if he would have to face the Israeli Air Force.

Florida is way too big of a land area. Maybe just south Florida? But we'd need to keep "the Keys" since there are some good places to party there!

 

[Chief]

What prompted the deleteing posts from this thread?

Last night is wasn't "racism"............. it was called being "humorus" and now all of a sudden this morning it is?????


Let me think for a moment.......................I am trying to remember .......................... dad gummit! Oh yeah!!!!! I was trying to remember where I have seen type of "moderation" (and I use this term lightly) before. I remember now!!!! It was on TBN!

I suppose that a discussion in "jest" supporting the very goal that EVERY terrorist around the world holds as the holy grail of accomplishment (namely expelling the Jews from Israel by moving them back to the United State is just humor as well? I am laughing so hard I wet my pants! NOT!

But I forget again! This isn't anti-sematism......... it is just good fun and humor!

I am sure every Jew in Israel and all of our military folks in Iraq and Afghanistan are just wettin' their pants laughing about his too!

Heck Bob! You were talking about

Well if you can think of another place that we can move them to resolve all the problems I outlined above then I am certainly open to suggestions!!!

Let me see Bob ........... my memory is a little foggy here ............. Oh Yeah! I remember a guy who tried the very same thing! Actually he was amazingly successful at it but in the end failed. His name was Adolf Hitler.

Bare with me guys, I am still calibrating my reality and political correctness meter to follow along on how things work around here as I did not realize that Wikipedia was held up as the definitive factual source. Below is a shining example of Wiki's fine standards of non-partisam, non-agenda driven, and strictly fact checked information.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2005-11-29-wikipedia-edit_x.htm

I guess I am gonna have to make me some tin foil hats, read up on my "Black Helicopter Conspiracy "Facts", and track down where Elvis is REALLY hiding.

 

[DaveNay]

I think Doc, Junk and Brian will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe there have be absolutely no posts deleted whatsoever. If they have, then I will join you in taking turns slapping their hands.

Heck, even the posts that say "Doc, please delete this" are still there. LOL

 

[Melensdad]

Dave, actually there was ONE post that I know of that was deleted in this thread. It was a photo. I'm not sure which moderator deleted it, but think it was probably Junkman. If it was him, then he made the correct decision. I'm sure it was posted as an attempt at a humorous post, but it really was not funny and was offensive, racist and religious and secular blasphemy. It certainly crossed the boundaries of being civil. And the one main rule we have here is to be civil.

It should also be pointed out that Chief is taking the term 'humorous' out of context. It was stated yesterday that it was probably posted with humorous intent. But that is not the same as calling it humorous.

Now as far as another post that was not deleted that one was publicly chastised by several members and allowed to stand. That post appeared in a different thread, and within the context of the thread it was written in anger and it was racist without being the other things.

 

[DaveNay]

I stand corrected. I must have missed that particular post, and did not notice it missing.

Not sure if I agree that it was proper to remove it, but as has been said before, it's not our playground.

 

[California]

I guess I am gonna have to make me some tin foil hats, read up on my "Black Helicopter Conspiracy "Facts", and track down where Elvis is REALLY hiding.

Here ya go, Chief:
http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

 

[DaveNay]

I guess I am gonna have to make me some tin foil hats, read up on my "Black Helicopter Conspiracy "Facts", and track down where Elvis is REALLY hiding.

Elvis is roomates with Salman Rushdie. They are both living in Mith's basement.

:vemo:

 

[TOMLESCOEQUIP]

Elvis is roomates with Salman Rushdie. They are both living in Mith's basement.

:vemo:

Now that's a scarey thought !!

 

[Melensdad]

Let me see Bob ........... my memory is a little foggy here ............. Oh Yeah! I remember a guy who tried the very same thing! Actually he was amazingly successful at it but in the end failed. His name was Adolf Hitler.

Chief, I really think you need to think before you type. You will notice in my prior posts to this thread that the suggestion to move Isreal was made by the leader of Iran. You will also notice that I said that I would gladly welcome them here. You gladly seem to twist words to fit your needs; look back and see that I never suggested forced relocation to concentration camps. For you to equate me to Hitler is nothing more than a childish attempt to cause trouble. I will have none of it.

 

[OkeeDon]

Below is a shining example of Wiki's fine standards of non-partisam, non-agenda driven, and strictly fact checked information.

Oh, c'mon, chief. Every reference in the universe was written by someone, and I'm certain every reference work has errors in it, somewhere. Even the translations of the Bible differ. You found one article about one incorrect reference, which was discovered and was corrected, and a heck of a lot faster than a print-medium encyclopedia could be corrected.

From that, you were able to deduce that the Wikipedia is partison and agenda driven? That's an incredible feat!

Or, could it be that when a fact that doesn't quite fit your fantasy world sneaks up and smacks you in the face, you automatically assume it must be partison and agenda driven? Nothing partison about that assumption, huh?

Give me a break.

 

[OkeeDon]

Bob, I didn't take it that he was equating you with Hitler; I took it that he was praising Hitler for his actions and was suggesting someone else finish the job. Of course, my interpretaion may have been influenced by my opinion of the author.

 

[Melensdad]

Bob, I didn't take it that he was equating you with Hitler; I took it that he was praising Hitler for his actions and was suggesting someone else finish the job. Of course, my interpretaion may have been influenced by my opinion of the author.

Either way, it is childish and shows a very simplistic mind at work.

 

[Archdean]

Ok beat me to death with this one!!

I have just spent the last several hours calming the waters because a new member I brought to this forum was criticized for making a quasi "raciest statement"!
The very next thing I read is yep you Guessed IT , RIGHT HERE in all it's well meant humor and we all know that it is!! But for Christ's sake can we at least be consistent in where we apply the admonitions and the giggles and guffaws!!

I really don't give a damn who what where and how often you insult today, yesterday, or tomorrow but one of the problems you invite!! With respect to new people which you for the most part say you want and welcome is they read something and apply the same kind of thing or less elsewhere and KA BOOM there now racists or some other convenient gobbedly-gook!! Yes in some circles GOOK is a pejorative term !! Well whoopee do let's be fair and yes I'll take the heat for every damn bit of this!!!!

PS Doc, Junk, BC take note Please!!

Dean

This post above should be removed also as the object that it was addressing albiet couched in my cowboy outback Oklahoma countryfied humor has turned up AWOL!!

It now appears that I am drawling on about nothing in paticular, admittedly that in itself should provide several of you fine fellers with a fresh supply of giggles and guffaws!!

I Am pleased that the illumination that it provided was recognized by at least one mod!

Dean

 

[Melensdad]

Dean, it was actually discussed prior to your post, probably reached 100% agreement prior to your post too, but things sometimes take time to actually occur. Would you like both of your posts deleted? I doubt that would occur. It takes a lot to get a post deleted around here.

 

[Archdean]

Dean, it was actually discussed prior to your post, probably reached 100% agreement prior to your post too, but things sometimes take time to actually occur. Would you like both of your posts deleted? I doubt that would occur. It takes a lot to get a post deleted around here.

OKKKKKKKKK but it was in fact fun and games up until then at least IMO!

To answer your ? Not necessarily as long as the context as to why, is explained in the thread and I now believe that it has been with some continuous meaning!

Dean

 

[BoneheadNW]

Dean-

It sure sounds like you have been sniffin' some of Mith's paint or John's glue! You should try my brand, Elmers. Its cheaper and lasts longer. Kinda makes it havrd to typoe thouhjg!
Boneaheed

 

[Archdean]

Dean-

It sure sounds like you have been sniffin' some of Mith's paint or John's glue! You should try my brand, Elmers. Its cheaper and lasts longer. Kinda makes it havrd to typoe thouhjg!
Boneaheed

EVIDENTLY makes it HARD TO HEAR ALSO!!!

Dean

 

[Chief]

Either way, it is childish and shows a very simplistic mind at work.

Oh come on Bob! I was just joining in with "humorus intent" like you were encouraging everyone to do. You need to lighten up and get some thicker skin ......... where is your sense of humor? But as Dave said

it's not our playground

OkeeDon, "there you go again"

Bob, I didn't take it that he was equating you with Hitler; I took it that he was praising Hitler for his actions and was suggesting someone else finish the job. Of course, my interpretaion may have been influenced by my opinion of the author

Actually, I have worked with the IDF in miltary exercised and found them to be a great and very professional group of very nice people. I would find it to be an honor and priveledge to join with them to help protect their nation should the requirement ever arise if I were to be recalled from military retirement.

Anyhow Don, I am honored by your jesture of "humorous intent"? Kinda reminds me of a mix of Barney Frank and Barbara Boxer type "accusation bomb throwing" humor. Good and humorous techique!

Back to Bob again.

Chief, I really think you need to think before you type. You will notice in my prior posts to this thread that the suggestion to move Isreal was made by the leader of Iran. You will also notice that I said that I would gladly welcome them here. You gladly seem to twist words to fit your needs; look back and see that I never suggested forced relocation to concentration camps. For you to equate me to Hitler is nothing more than a childish attempt to cause trouble. I will have none of it.

Bob???????? What am I going to do with you and Okiedon???????? Hopefully the post has not been deleted yet but who knows? Seems to me from what I have read, the only folks in this thread talking about

forced relocation to concentration camps

and

someone else finish the job

is you and Okiedon.

If I didn't realize you and Don were using "humorous intent"; I would be shocked and offended as this could be misconstrued as racism and anti-sematism. But I do realize that we are all just good friends sharing "humorous intenet" with each other.

California, LOVED the link on foil hats! I think my preference would be for the Centurion model with the classic as my back up. How about you?

Bob, INDEED you are VERY correct and thank you for the sage advice!

Chief, I really think you need to think before you type

Since the edit feature has been has been blocked on my membership account, I guess I gotta watch my spelling and P's & Q's. My compliments on surpassing TBN standards on censorship and "moderation" !

WELL! This has be an very "humorous intended" discussion! What do we move onto next? I have been made to feel sooooooo welcome here that I feel just like one of that family!

Cheers, Merry Christmas to all, and best wishes for the holidays!

 

[BoneheadNW]

EVIDENTLY makes it HARD TO HEAR ALSO!!!

Dean

Eh?

when indoctrinated cultures such as The mainland Chinese/North Koreans and the Upstart Muslim factions have you eating your ration of rice and playing your tunes with chopsticks while reading verses from the Koran in unison all the while wondering how in hell did this happen?
You will at least be able to give yourself an answer!!!

Oh my God! An asian family moved in up the street from me! I knew I should have been suspicious when my kid wanted to eat with chopsticks last night! They're not coming, they are already here!
Dean, you are my font of information. What should I do?

 

[Chief]

Eh?

Oh my God! An asian family moved in up the street from me! I knew I should have been suspicious when my kid wanted to eat with chopsticks last night! They're not coming, they are already here!
Dean, you are my font of information. What should I do?

Sounds like the ideal scenario to eat Asian cuisine on a regular basis! What more could you ask for? Just watch out and don't eat too much or you can get "hung chow" from too much fiber!