Dargo
Like a bad penny...
Re: For OkeeDon - Is Kerry a Liar?
I only drink about one drink or so a month. I did have a Jack and Coke the other night though. However, yes, I know for a fact from some very high ranking (retired) military personnel that special circunstance soldiers do exist and they are propped up and they are padding their resume. I'll definitely not make any derogatory comments aimed towards you if you did not know that this is a very real occurance in the military.
Not all, no.
Kerry specifically tried to run as a "war hero" until he got caught in his lies and had to retreat faster than the French army. As noted earlier, I do not think that Bush served any tougher service than Kerry, and is certainly not a war hero. I will argue rather strongly that Bush's father, kinda like Dole, was indeed a true American war hero. When Kerry tried to hold himself up to those guys and McCain, he became a fraud in the eyes of many Americans. As I said earlier, Kerry shot himself (in more than one way) with his lies during his campaign and it definitely cost him the office of the U.S. President. Although it wasn't all that close, if Kerry wouldn't have campaigned on personal lies that were proven false, he may have won. Personally, I'm glad he is a poor liar.
BoneheadNW said:Dargo, believe what you want on this one but if I was 18-22 years old and my butt was on the line (literally) patrolling the streets of Iraq and someone told me "nothing is to happen to this guy", I would make sure that he would be on the enemy side of me all the time. I don't believe that most of these guys are as worried about their career in the military nearly as much as they are about getting themselves and their buddies out of there in one piece. I have been fortunate never to have served in battle (no offense to those who have, I guess I am a woosie), but like many hazerdous jobs you rely on your partners for survival. Do you really think that someone would risk going to war and depend on other soldiers to make sure nothing happens to them just to pad thier resume? I want some of what you have been drinkin (respectfully, please )
I only drink about one drink or so a month. I did have a Jack and Coke the other night though. However, yes, I know for a fact from some very high ranking (retired) military personnel that special circunstance soldiers do exist and they are propped up and they are padding their resume. I'll definitely not make any derogatory comments aimed towards you if you did not know that this is a very real occurance in the military.
BoneheadNW said:So all of our presidents "untruths" (i.e. things he said that were not true) can be explained by incorrect information that he was provided? Do you REALLY believe that?
Not all, no.
BoneheadNW said:Even if what you say is true about Kerry deliberately going to Viet Nam to pad his resume (which I don't believe for a minute as stated above), why is it that he is a fraud and the younger Bush was just "not in harms way"? Isn't he a fraud too? While we are on the subject, why do some Republicans point to Clinton, Gore, Kerry, etc. and call them frauds, criminals, etc but refer to members of their own party (Bush, Delay, etc.) as being "misinformed" or having made a "mistake". I think that the same standards should be applied to any of these people, regardless of party. How about you?
Bonehead
Kerry specifically tried to run as a "war hero" until he got caught in his lies and had to retreat faster than the French army. As noted earlier, I do not think that Bush served any tougher service than Kerry, and is certainly not a war hero. I will argue rather strongly that Bush's father, kinda like Dole, was indeed a true American war hero. When Kerry tried to hold himself up to those guys and McCain, he became a fraud in the eyes of many Americans. As I said earlier, Kerry shot himself (in more than one way) with his lies during his campaign and it definitely cost him the office of the U.S. President. Although it wasn't all that close, if Kerry wouldn't have campaigned on personal lies that were proven false, he may have won. Personally, I'm glad he is a poor liar.