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TUCKER 1643

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Anyone have personal experience with the TUCKER 1643? I have my eye on one and wanted some feed back. I have no experience with Tuckers. It has the Chrysler 318 and a manual transmission. Its a brute weighing in at 8,500 lbs or so.
 
She also has the full lockers front and rear. For some reason I am really wanting to get a Tucker. They sure are nice. :thumb:
 

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You want a machine that's hard to get stuck in the deep stuff, get a tucker. I used to run one back in the early 90's. The tuckers around here will walk circles around a 2 track system such as a Bombardier. Climbing capabilities is much better I find since you have 4 tracks griping. On a two track machine, if you lose traction on one track while climbing, the machine will shoot sideways on you. With four tracks touching the ground, if one loses traction, you still have the other 3 diging in. One disadvantage I see to a tucker though is it's turning radius. They take a bit more space to turn around.
 
Working on them is pretty easy also. Most of the mechanical parts should be available at any automotive store. One suggestion/recomendation though. If the track belts need replacing, don't go cheap. We th0ought we were getting a good deal on the track belts for our old machine but we soon discovered that due to the grouser configuration being spread further apart than our Lamtrac, there is allot more flex(if yu would call it) in the belts and the slightest twig on the trail would tear a belt. We blew 5 belts one season in a two month span........not fun at -30 out in the middle of nowhere.
 
Thanks for the help there Groomerguy. See I knew BigAl was wrong about you! Anyway they sold it today! Son of a Biatch! BUT Now I am looking at the Tucker 1742 2 man cab but has the 2 stroke Detroit 4-53T diesel engine in it with 2800 hours and Allison 4 speed auto. I will put a 8 passenger cab on it myself.
 
Since you have shown and interest in the front engine TUCKER Models, I have attached some pictures which help illustrate the conditions they are designed to operate in:
 

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More pictures of 1643 Tuckers:
 

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More 1643 pictures:
 

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Do you operate one of these beasts? If so what are you getting as far as gallons per mile when not towing anything? The one I am looking at now has the Detroit 2 stroke diesel engine 4-53T. These are brutes fas far as engines go. Its the 1742.
 
So you are looking at the two man cab with the blade.

I am in the process of rebuilding/modifying a 1974 gas model 500 (wide steel track), have not driven it enough to know about fuel milage. I just recieved a spare 28x84 steel track from Bill G. I am in the process of repairing some track links and roller attachment points.

I am an inexperienced sno-cat operator. I have a lot to learn about the limits of my machine. This fall I am going to determine the center of gravity and (roll) side balance angle. I found a pitch and roll meter which will indicate up to 45 degrees.

I have been collecting pictures of Tuckers for some time and just wanted to post some interesting views experienced by others.

Good hunting for your Tucker.
 
YUP the one with the blade has my eye now. I am also going to pick up another Kristi. I want to play around with the hydraulics. Thanks for the pictures!
 
Don't know any numbers on exact fuel mileage but in our old tucker(which had the deisel engine), we could do about an 18-20 hour run breaking trail throughthe dep stuff pulling a 9ft drag behind. Our Lamtrac has the same engine and two yrs ago, I did a 90 or so mile run and still had around 1/4 tank of fuel left. When we got our first Lamtrac, we left out on the trail running overnight one time. It had a touch under 1/4 tank left in her when we went out in the morning to start our run. It was about 2hrs before the guage read empty. We ran another 8hrs(40 miles) on the reserve tank before we pulled a "SKURKA" and ran the thing out of fuel about 5 miles out of town. Thank god for Satellite phones!
 
Do you operate one of these beasts? If so what are you getting as far as gallons per mile when not towing anything? The one I am looking at now has the Detroit 2 stroke diesel engine 4-53T. These are brutes fas far as engines go. Its the 1742.

Slight correction on the info I provided. Both the tucker and Lamtrac I have run have the 174hp cummins turbo deisel engine. Should give you an idea though on what to expect from a deisel.
 
Mike,

My (property neighbor) Bob H runs a Tucker 2000. I believe his is a diesel. He lives year-round in snow country and can tell ya all about this series of Tuckers. PM me and I'll give you his #.

I haven't had my little Tucker out enough times to compare to his but I can share some comments from other cat operators in the area. They call Bob's Tucker 2000 the "caddy" of the mountain. The other cats are Imps. The long wheelbase of the Tucker and 4 tracks makes for a much smoother ride on the 2 mile haul in/out.

That 1700 series you show has even more track area than the 2000.

Go Tucker!!

Vance

P.S. BTW, the pics below are taken at about the same location. the Imp was at it's limit pushing snow downhill in the second pic. He said no-way could he go up the hill in that stuff.
 

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I've owned my '77 1742 since 1983 and have several thousand hours of operation in that time. I can honestly say that I've only been "stuck" - needing digging or pulling to get me out - twice in that time. Both times I had driven down a steep incline off of a pile of snow and proceeded to bury the front tracks under a hard drift. Because of the steep incline, I was unable to back up and so had to dig. I routinely cross 30+ degree side slopes and routinely climb 30+ degree hard snow hills.

My Tucker has a 440 Chrysler gas motor and a NPG 5-speed manual. I've driven several diesel-powered Tuckers, one with a Perkins and an Allison auto and two with 4-53 Detroits and Allisons and none of those had the "punch" that the gas motor has - You're idling along and you punch the throttle on the diesels and they go harder but not in the same way the gas one leaps forward. The diesels also weigh a bit more than a comparable gas model in my experience because, especially with the Detroits, they motors are considerably heavier.

My 440 burns about 5 gallons an hour, so I can go about 10 hours on a tank.

My 1742 will easily climb up and over a vertical 4 foot wall of snow that would quickly stop a two track cat - the front tracks rear back and climb over while the rear ones stay firmly planted, driving hard. Once the fronts are up on the flat the rears rear back and follow.
 
I've owned my '77 1742 since 1983 and have several thousand hours of operation in that time. I can honestly say that I've ....
My 1742 will easily climb up and over a vertical 4 foot wall of snow that would quickly stop a two track cat - the front tracks rear back and climb over while the rear ones stay firmly planted, driving hard. Once the fronts are up on the flat the rears rear back and follow.

Hmmm... I'm very impressed with these Tucker stories...enough so that it may be worth a purchase... just found one today however it's not modern so may have to look for something more up-to-date.

Would Tucker be my mistress to my Thiokol harem? :boobies: :coolshade

You may be on to something Mike... :4_11_9:

Maybe I test the trounds with the older one I found...
 
However...the one thing that really annoys me is the rear-engine Tuckers... makes it impossible to transform into a people-mover.
 
WOW! Thanks for the response. The Tuckers have always had my eye. I am going to get one. The diesel does scare me off a bit and would have preffered the 318 industrial one I had in my first post. I may just wait to find the one I really want. A 440 would be sweet since my brother has years of experience building these motors with some of the best builders around.
 
Do you operate one of these beasts? If so what are you getting as far as gallons per mile when not towing anything? The one I am looking at now has the Detroit 2 stroke diesel engine 4-53T. These are brutes fas far as engines go. Its the 1742.

Better stack two or three mufflers on that detroit and put the exhaust pipe as far out the back as you can !:pirate: Is this factory in a tucker??
They are a high reving diesel ....long lasting , just keep the ether in the cab for starting, they like it!:myopinion: :myopinion:
 
was just looking at the 1342 tucker at safetyone and noticed a different grouser/cleet setup than any other tucker I've seen. Normally they aren't staggerred/offset like that. I tried to copy and post the pictures but couldn't so just go to their website and have a look....it's the yellow one I was looking at.
 
What a small world... that Tucker for sale by Wayne on snowest is where I bought my Tucker... They use them to groom snowmobile trails for the Castlegar Snomobile Club. That twas a fun roadtrip up to Castlegar, BC to pick it up!!

Here, I have a pic from when I picked up mine...

Vance
 

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WOW! Thanks for the response. The Tuckers have always had my eye. I am going to get one. The diesel does scare me off a bit and would have preffered the 318 industrial one I had in my first post. I may just wait to find the one I really want. A 440 would be sweet since my brother has years of experience building these motors with some of the best builders around.

If I was going to get one I'd probably go gas too. The deisels seem more designed for torque and pulling power.........better suited to grooming applications. But, for personal use/tours etc, the gas is probably a better way to go.
 
was just looking at the 1342 tucker at safetyone and noticed a different grouser/cleet setup than any other tucker I've seen. Normally they aren't staggerred/offset like that. I tried to copy and post the pictures but couldn't so just go to their website and have a look....it's the yellow one I was looking at.

I've never seen that setup, either. It would add a bit of weight but I don't see any improvement over the standard setup (orange Tucker). You lose the center ice-biters with that (yellow) setup.

V
 

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I've got gas, a small block chevy [327], which was installed stock in 1974. Gives me many different power options as resonable price.

Looking at changing over to a 200-4R overdrive auto trans, will required modified tail section and possibly moving engine forward a few inches to make connection to brake and transfer.
 
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