The Morning After Pill - Back-Up Birth Control

[Junkman]

WalMart was ordered this week by the Massachusetts Board of Pharmacy to carry the morning after pill. The Board of Pharmacy unanimously voted because under Massachusetts state law the pharmacies are required to stock medications that are commonly prescribed and needed by the community. This pill is emergency contraception, and just that. It‘s contraception that works not through an abortion fashion. It‘s often confused with RU-486, which is an abortion pill. The emergency contraception pill is the same medication that is in most common contraception and works the same way.
It will be interesting to see how the retail giant handles this latest development. Will they challenge this in the courts??? Will they just give in and start selling the product that they have taken a moral stand against? What do you think the next round will be...... Junk..

 

[Junkman]

No guessing what the next round will be. Seems that Walmart has changed there policy and announced to day ..........................

According to Ron Chomiuk, vice president of Pharmacy for Wal-Mart: "We expect more states to require us to sell emergency contraceptives in the months ahead. Because of this, and the fact that this is an FDA-approved product, we feel it is difficult to justify being the country’s only major pharmacy chain not selling it." [Wal-Mart press statement 3/3/06]

Now will all the people that were in agreement with Walmart not selling this contraceptive pill stop shopping Walmart and boycott them??????

 

[Kubota King]

I only buy motor oil, carb cleaner & wd 40 at Wal- Mart because it is close to home & super inexpensive but I buy nothing else there.

 

[Junkman]

What is the reason that you purchase so little there??????

 

[thcri]

Now will all the people that were in agreement with Walmart not selling this contraceptive pill stop shopping Walmart and boycott them??????

Would you have stopped shopping Wal-mart if they didn't sell this pill. I don't believe in boycotts and for the most part don't think they work all that well. Now that Wal-mart is selling the product that will not change my habbits with them.

But I still believe that a company should have the right to not sell a product if they wish without some organization forcing them too. If someone came into your business and told you what you were going to do you would be pissed.

But I won't change my habbits with Wal-mart. I am bigger than that.

murph

 

[Junkman]

.................
But I still believe that a company should have the right to not sell a product if they wish without some organization forcing them too.

No organization forced them to. It was the State of MA that ultimately pushed them into changing there minds. The statement by the V.P of Walmart alluded to that if they didn't, other states would have forced the issue also.

If someone came into your business and told you what you were going to do you would be pissed.

Customers do this all the time in this part of the world. It isn't unusual for a customer to claim that a product is sold elsewhere for less and if you want there business, you will match the price. They are also very demanding of the brands of dog food that they want you to carry as a convenience for them. Right now, I believe that we carry about 15 different lines of dog food, where as 15 years ago, it was 3 or 4. The state routinely tells us what we MUST do, since we are a licensed business, and without that license, we are out of business. We are subject to inspection by 3 or 4 state agencies and 2 non government agencies, the MA Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, and the Boston Animal Rescue League. Funny thing is that one is a state wide organization and the other is a Boston based one. The Boston Animal Rescue League seems to go way out of the way..... 75 - 125 miles to inspect pet shops. I know of no other state that gives inspection powers to private organizations to enforce state laws.

But I won't change my habits with Wal-mart. I am bigger than that.

murph

Time to go on a diet......

 

[buy_25]

all this over the business that outsources to China more and more each year...

I for one am glad since, I think in this thread I am the only one that live in the state of MA; and they [walfart] think that can do what they please. You can go to walfart and buy a gun and some pills. If this upsets you I hate to see if you people knew more laws we have to baby people with more and more free handouts, laws, taxes etc. This is nothing since I live in this state.

To close, these stores in my area attract more scum of the earth, clowns living in the hills towns and city trash more and more everyday. And the places are dirty and the products are cheaper and cheaper everytime I go there (4 times max a year).

And yes I hate the store and for many good reasons. I shop online since they [walfart] have nothing to offer. I like stores that carry a fee to get in the door since it keeps 90% of the morons out of the store.

 

[Doc]

It surprises me to hear you go in walfart even 4 times a year Mike.
I hate the thought of paying for the right to shop at a store. Sam's Club is the main store like that close to me. Shopping at either Walfart or Sams can be a hassle. The clientele appears to be very much the same. Inconsiderate and rude.
I prefer shopping on line when possible.

 

[buy_25]

It surprises me to hear you go in walfart even 4 times a year Mike.
I hate the thought of paying for the right to shop at a store. Sam's Club is the main store like that close to me. Shopping at either Walfart or Sams can be a hassle. The clientele appears to be very much the same. Inconsiderate and rude.
I prefer shopping on line when possible.

Do not like to go there; notice I said go there, not shop! The wife drags me me there and I hate being there big time. But on the flip side it is a good "show" to watch the people. Most people think it is a playground or they own the store. I do not know where these people come from. It is not the smell of the burnt popcorn or the people with 4 generations there. It is the same crap and junk in the store. People love the place since it is cheap, not quality.

I also hate paying to shop at a store but the prices are cheaper then walmart. Plus I think of it this way, I will gladly pay some fee/membership to shop where I can in piece and not worry about morons (at least not so many).

I am very glad that walfart is being forced to do something. People get mad that I hate the store; but, when you see the billions they buy from a communist country (china). No thanks. Never mind the endless jobs that are farmed out there to make CEO get millions in profits.

To close, I hope walfart get more things forced down there throats. Since I live in this state I am glad that it happened.

 

[Junkman]

There is only one thing that I will constantly purchase at Walfart. The automobile batteries. I put one in my car ($49.88) and it lasted 5 years so far, which is more than I can say for the $139 battery that the dealer installed before that. That one lasted 3 years and crapped out. There batteries are made by Johnson Controls and I have had very good luck with them. I would rather replace a $49 battery once every 5 years than a $139 one every 3 - 5 years. Other than that, I don't find anything in there that is worth buying. A couple of years ago, I bought there wood pellets at a good price, but those are a hit or miss item. If you don't get there the day they arrive, they are sold out by the next day and there is no telling when the next shipment will come. They were clean burning and as good as the Energex that I presently uses for a lot less money.

 

[bczoom]

Other than that, I don't find anything in there that is worth buying.

I go in once in awhile, buy cashews and leave.

 

[Junkman]

I let the wife buy the cashews....

 

[Doc]

I can only find 55 gallon heavy duty trash bags at walfart or Sams. No where else.

It appears they get us all on something ...one particular item. I'll admit, I buy more than the one item whenever I am in there.

If anyone knows of somewhere else that sells the 55 gallon bags, buy some and send them to me. ... or tell me the name of the store.

 

[buy_25]

There is only one thing that I will constantly purchase at Walfart. The automobile batteries. I put one in my car ($49.88) and it lasted 5 years so far, which is more than I can say for the $139 battery that the dealer installed before that. That one lasted 3 years and crapped out. There batteries are made by Johnson Controls and I have had very good luck with them. I would rather replace a $49 battery once every 5 years than a $139 one every 3 - 5 years. Other than that, I don't find anything in there that is worth buying. A couple of years ago, I bought there wood pellets at a good price, but those are a hit or miss item. If you don't get there the day they arrive, they are sold out by the next day and there is no telling when the next shipment will come. They were clean burning and as good as the Energex that I presently uses for a lot less money.

I thought Walfarts bateries were made by Exide (last time I looked; 6 months ago)? I don't know if that's just this year's contract, or if it varies by region due to the high cost of freight.

I know Cosco has there batteries made by Johnson Control, the same people who make Interstate batteries and Sears Diehards too. Bought a family member one yesterday.

I know my Lexus batery last 8+ years; which now has a Red Top Optima in there. Lexus wanted about $200 for a new battery. My GSXR had a Yuasa that last 10 years.

Wow, wood pellets at walfart. That would never happen here in my city.

 

[Ricochet]

I'm pro-life (with exceptions), so I support Wal-Marts decision not to stock this pill. That's all I have time to say or feel like saying right now, but I know I will eventually say more when it comes to politics (sooner or later).

 

[buy_25]

I say it is the womans choice and stores in my state should carry it. Again it is there [womans] choice to use it or not. But the product has to be in the stores for the woman to make a choice; not the store [walfart] in this case. In this case walfart did not carry and they woman have a right to sue (and won!).

Since I live here (this state), at least let the woman make the choice to use it.

 

[thcri]

I say it is the womans choice and stores in my state should carry it. Again it is there [womans] choice to use it or not. But the product has to be in the stores for the woman to make a choice; not the store [walfart] in this case.

Since I live here (this state), at least let the woman make the choice to use it.

That's kind of two faced. If a women has a choice to abortion, Wal-mart shoud have a choice to stock a product or not. I don't think our government should have the right to tell Wal-mart what to stock or sell. I own a business and I would not want them to tell or dictate to me what to sell. Junk gave an scenario early about his customers demanding him what to sell. Even though his customers are asking for a particular item he still should have the right to decide whether he is going to stock it or not.

murph

 

[Junkman]

Murph..... if all your customers wanted Carrier and all that you cared to sell was Trane, then how long would you stay in business??? You would either change your ways, the same as Walmart, or you would go out of business. The biggest problem is that when a large corporation dictates to the market place because they control that market, then the government MUST step in and right the wrong.
Your belief, I believe is about being Pro Life as a religious belief, a moral belief, or both. If my wife, girl friend, sister, mother, aunt, etc. didn't subscribe to your religious or moral beliefs, then why should she be forced to abide by it? It isn't like they are killing the next door neighbor, as some have tried to make the analogy in the past. There is a difference between a pregnancy and a person that has been born after 9 months. I know that the Pro Life people don't agree, but also many Pro Life people are also supporters of capital punishment. They seem to want to pick and choose those lives that are worth saving and those that are not.
I know of a few Christian families that strongly didn't believe in birth control or abortion until the daughter came home and announced that she was pregnant. Strange how there beliefs changed and they allowed the daughter to have an abortion. They also put the daughter on birth control pills, since they realized that they could not stifle her sexual urges. If that girl had given birth to a child at the age of 15, it would have ruined her life in all probability, even if she gave it up for adoption.

 

[Junkman]

................. Even though his customers are asking for a particular item he still should have the right to decide whether he is going to stock it or not.

murph

The difference is that my selling a particular dog food isn't the difference between someone having an unwanted pregnancy or not. It is unfortunate that our government believes that they have the right to force all citizens to believe in their religious values. What ever happened to freedom of religion and freedom from religion. That is the reason that this country was settled. It was to get away from the religious persecution that was prevalent in England at the time. You had no choice but to accept the religion of the state or leave. Right now, we are fighting a religious war in Iraq. They insurgents feel that there religion should be the only one and that all others should either convert or die. Prohibition was based on the religious belief that alcohol was bad and we all know where that argument went after it was shoved down the peoples throats... it was abolished shortly there after. Outlawing abortion will not resolve the issue. It will continue to be done except in secrecy as it was performed prior to Roe vs. Wade. It has been going on for thousands of years and making it illegal won't change that. Same with prostitution.... we have laws banning that, but they don't work. Same with our war on drugs. If we were to legalize and control them, then all the money that is spent in intervention, could be channeled into other areas, and we would take the profit out of them. That would also reduce our prison population. I find it strange that one of the strongest proponents of the war on drugs was also a drug abuser..... Know who I am talking about??? Good Ole Rush Limbaugh. Personally, I think that they should send him to prison just to prove that all drug abusers are treated the same, but it won't happen.

 

[thcri]

Murph..... if all your customers wanted Carrier and all that you cared to sell was Trane, then how long would you stay in business??? You would either change your ways, the same as Walmart, or you would go out of business.

The biggest problem is that when a large corporation dictates to the market place because they control that market, then the government MUST step in and right the wrong.

But it would be "Still My Choice". And I am not sure it is a fair comparison. But if so, it would be customer driven and not forced by the government. What your saying is the government has said that we don't want you to sell Trane anymore and you must sell Carrier or we are going to give you a fine. The other think is I sell one product so I am affected more by that decision. Wal-mart sells many products. Wal-mart's decision whether it is religious beleifs or belief of abortion being wrong to not sell the product is their business. And if their business is affected by the fact they don't sell the pill that is for them to worry about, not yours, mine or again the governments. And quiet frankly whether Wal-mart sells that pill or not it would not hurt their business. My point is whether one beleives in abortion or not, it is and should be Walmarts decision. If Wal-mart didn't want to sell lawn mowers no government should come in and say they have to sell them just because there is not another lawn mower dealer around.

The biggest problem is that when a large corporation dictates to the market place because they control that market, then the government MUST step in and right the wrong.

How can Wal-mart control a market by not selling a product?? Seems to me that now that they have to sell the pill and at the prices they can sell it for they now would be controlling the market.


murph

 

[buy_25]

How can Wal-mart control a market by not selling a product?? Seems to me that now that they have to sell the pill and at the prices they can sell it for they now would be controlling the market.


murph

Easy, since they forced all the other stores to go belly up, they are the ones ones in towns/city. If they do not have it, the person is S%^& out of luck. Now that is flat out wrong and not fair.

I find it odd that so far, no ones lives in this state but me and people are getting all up tight. Do not worry you do not live here; not your issue. I am glad they have to carry it.

 

[thcri]

I find it odd that so far, no ones lives in this state but me and people are getting all up tight. Do not worry you do not live here; not your issue. I am glad they have to carry it.

It was brought up in this forum for all to voice their opinion. By your standards just because I was not from your state I am not to voice my opinion?

murph

 

[buy_25]

you can voice all you want but in the end the only ones effected by this would be MA people; or me, the only one in this thread. This is as good as people still crying about diesel prices on KBN!

If some clown business like Walfart does not carry the pill then the tax payers (me in this state/case) will need to flip the bill; and for the next 18 years. So it effects the people of this state and they [walfart] should be forced to sell it. Other states should do the same unless people like paying more and more for unwanted kids. All this because some store did not sell some cheap item.

 

[thcri]

Maybe you should read all the posts. Wal-mart has made the decision to now sell it in all states or stores because of the MA ruling. So it does effect all of us.

 

[buy_25]

Maybe you should read all the posts. Wal-mart has made the decision to now sell it in all states or stores because of the MA ruling. So it does effect all of us.

And I am sure the bible belt states and the conserative ones will all sue and whine about it. They will come up with thing to not sell it.

Then I guess people like the "pro life ones" ones will be happy until if comes out of their wallet. Or you like paying for more peope's health insurances, free school coming from your taxes etc. It will cost the tax payers millions of dollars.

I for one am thankful of our state and the ruling. Time to step-up to the plate on this one walfart. To bad they had to have it thrown down there throats.