Obama supporters spit on Romney supporters ~ WTF?

[Melensdad]

OK we can all disgaree or we can agree or whatever, but seriously why is it that the folks on the left seem to be so uncivil?

Here is a link to video of a Romney supporter being spat upon by an Obama supporter. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romney-supporter-spat-protester-wisconsin_650154.html

Within the past week we also had 2 female protestors in Iowa try to get on stage with Paul Ryan and one of them hit a secret service agent.

At the Iowa state fair a couple anti-war Obama supporters were reported to have pushed and hit WWII and Korean War veterans!

In Washington DC a GLBT supporter was prevented from mass murder inside the offices of a pro-family organization. The same organization was labled as a "hate group" by the Southern Law Policy Center, a group that historically supports liberal groups and typically frames conservatives as radicals, hate mongers, etc.

The OCCUPY MOVEMENT has been credited with drug dealing, multiple rapes, murder, wanton destruction of public property and even taking a s**t on a police car.

Why all the violence from the LEFT?

 

[muleman]

They are part of the "act up" generation and think violent protest is OK to achieve their goals. Unfortunately today's DOJ has no inclination to prosecute anyone and often overrules local judicial officials if they do arrest and charge them. Basically a get out of jail free card for their BS. To me they are a product of liberal parenting and teaching and are a bigger threat than many they oppose.

 

[Melensdad]

They are part of the "act up" generation and think violent protest is OK to achieve their goals.

The "spitter" in the video was 83 years old

And while I didn't mention the protests in Wisconsin by the teachers union against Gov. Walker, many of those protestors were middle aged. They committed many actions of criminal tresspass, personal assault, property damage, etc.

I will bet that most of the violence from the left is done by younger people, but there is certainly plenty of evidence that older liberals are also destructive and dangerous toward others.

Again I ask, where is the civility among the liberals?

 

[cdajen]

I hardly think that one individual doing something nasty to another individual is a solid basis for the title "Obama supporters spit on Romney supporters". I think a more appropriate title would be, "asshole spits on another guy". I'm an Obama supporter and I've never spit on anyone.

 

[EastTexFrank]

I hardly think that one individual doing something nasty to another individual is a solid basis for the title "Obama supporters spit on Romney supporters". I think a more appropriate title would be, "asshole spits on another guy". I'm an Obama supporter and I've never spit on anyone.

I'm NOT an Obama supporter but I agree with you on this one but you have to admit that a headline of "Obama Supporter Spits On Romney Supporter" isn't going to garner many readers. It's much better to exaggerate the situation and lead potential readers into thinking it was a total phlegm fest.

What's the sentence for belting an 83-year old? .... self defense, I hope.

 

[Melensdad]

I'm NOT an Obama supporter but I agree with you on this one but you have to admit that a headline of "Obama Supporter Spits On Romney Supporter" isn't going to garner many readers. It's much better to exaggerate the situation and lead potential readers into thinking it was a total phlegm fest.

What's the sentence for belting an 83-year old? .... self defense, I hope.

Well let's just see. Laying out the FACTS in the TITLE and then shown in the video:

1 Obama supporter spit on 1 Romney supporter.

Now that seems to me that the title is ACCURATE. I then followed up the title and the initial video with a bunch of other information about liberals being violent, disruptive and generally uncivil. All of that is accurate too.

So YES, I do agree, someone spits on you then its reasonable to defend yourself. Afterall, there are diseases like HIV that can be spread by spitting on others. Further, spit on a cop and you will be charged with assault.

 

[nixon]

The "spitter" in the video was 83 years old :

Most likely living the glory years of Vietnam protesting . Asshat !

 

[cdajen]

Well let's just see. Laying out the FACTS in the TITLE and then shown in the video:

1 Obama supporter spit on 1 Romney supporter.

Now that seems to me that the title is ACCURATE. I then followed up the title and the initial video with a bunch of other information about liberals being violent, disruptive and generally uncivil. All of that is accurate too.

So YES, I do agree, someone spits on you then its reasonable to defend yourself. Afterall, there are diseases like HIV that can be spread by spitting on others. Further, spit on a cop and you will be charged with assault.

violent, disruptive and generally uncivil??? You really think that's factual? How many liberals do you know? As a liberal, with liberal friends and a liberal family, I have nothing but disdain for violence or unnecessary lack of civility. I'm not disruptive.

additionally, just as an FYI... no one has ever contracted HIV from being spit on.

 

[nixon]

violent, disruptive and generally uncivil??? You really think that's factual? How many liberals do you know? As a liberal, with liberal friends and a liberal family, I have nothing but disdain for violence or unnecessary lack of civility. I'm not disruptive.

additionally, just as an FYI... no one has ever contracted HIV from being spit on.

Well, aren't you just so special !

 

[Melensdad]

violent, disruptive and generally uncivil??? You really think that's factual? How many liberals do you know? As a liberal, with liberal friends and a liberal family, I have nothing but disdain for violence or unnecessary lack of civility. I'm not disruptive.

Perhaps you are not disruptive but I think its fair to say that Jesse Jackson is disruptive. Its fair to say Fr Michael Pfleger is disruptive. Its fair to also admit that Rev Al Sharpton is disruptive. And while all 3 of those religious leaders claim to abhor violence they each have made many statements that have, at very least, incited others civil disruption.

Generally speaking, the progressives are far more disruptive than the conservatives. Go to any Tea Party rally and then go to an Occupy event. Which one leaves trash everywhere? Which one is the cite of multiple rapes and assaults?

What about Obama divisive speaches that seek to divide the nation instead of joining us together?

What about the Animal Liberation Front, the violent arm of PETA? What about the Humane Society of the US and its members who disrupt legal hunters, not just with protests but also with bullhorns and even remote controlled drones!

What about the 10:10 Campaign in Enland? What about the Sea Shepherd boats disrupting legal whaling?

I could list dozen of events where progressives used intimidation or violence. Like just a few days ago the shooter who tried to commit mass murder in Washington DC at a conservative pro-family organization.

no one has ever contracted HIV from being spit on.

Go spit on a cop. You will be charged with violent assault. I rarely hear of anyone other than drunks, druggies and progressives who spit on police officers.

 

[cdajen]

All three of the people you mentioned are disruptive attention whores and I dislike them all. PETA is not a "liberal" organization they are a domestic terrorist group. I attended an Americans for Prosperity rally in June, and was verbally assaulted when I was honest about my feelings about the group. I was simply there with a camera, I wasn't disruptive at all, but I had people stand in front of my camera so I couldn't take pictures and was called all manner of names. I live in Montana, i'm a gun owner, I hunt. I'm educated, I vote, I am politically active locally and nationally. I think the root cause of this confusion is the fact that people assume too much about "liberals". We are not all the same.

And to the poster who asked if I was special... Yes, I am. thanks

 

[Melensdad]

Perhaps you are the isolated progressive who is non violent.

1 is a lonely number.

 

[tiredretired]

All three of the people you mentioned are disruptive attention whores and I dislike them all. PETA is not a "liberal" organization they are a domestic terrorist group. I attended an Americans for Prosperity rally in June, and was verbally assaulted when I was honest about my feelings about the group. I was simply there with a camera, I wasn't disruptive at all, but I had people stand in front of my camera so I couldn't take pictures and was called all manner of names. I live in Montana, i'm a gun owner, I hunt. I'm educated, I vote, I am politically active locally and nationally. I think the root cause of this confusion is the fact that people assume too much about "liberals". We are not all the same.

And to the poster who asked if I was special... Yes, I am. thanks

Ha, a liberal in Montana. That's about as crazy as a Tea Bagger in Vermont.

 

[Danang Sailor]

... I then followed up the title and the initial video with a bunch of other information about liberals being violent, disruptive and generally uncivil. All of that is accurate too ...

violent, disruptive and generally uncivil??? You really think that's factual? ...

Actually, what he said is completely factual. He posted a bunch of information about some self-described "liberals";
while it is possible to read into that an attack on all those who consider themselves to be "liberals", that is not what was
actually said.

BTW, it's always nice to meet someone who self-labels as a "liberal" who is also an erudite gun owner! I personally
believe the "liberal" label has been hijacked by those better called socialist progressives, people barely removed from
Marxists.

The simple fact is that the Reids, Pelosis, and Obamas have taken what was once an honorable appellation and turned
it into something nasty. We need to find a better political label for folks such as yourself; having no suggestions myself, I'm
open to any that you or anyone else here might have.

 

[cdajen]

I'm entirely comfortable with the progressive, liberal label. It describes my political and social frame of mind well.

I'm afraid I have to dismiss anyone who believes I might be an "isolated" non violent liberal, because that is just silly. I find it no different than someone who says maybe there is one Man who isn't a dick. Or One woman who doesn't cheat. Or One black person who doesn't commit crime. Or One blonde who isn't an airhead. I tend not to get along with people who make sweeping generalizations, and are proud of it. I won't waste my time or yours'.

I come from a very traditional family. Both parents, married 42 years. 2 siblings. Native Montanan's. My father is career military and my mom stayed at home with the kids. My brother is gay, my sister has a child, and I have a lovely fiance and several 4 legged kids. I don't fit into many generalizations. If you'd like to get to know me, for me, I welcome you. If you'd rather shove me into narrow, preset, categories... don't bother.

 

[EastTexFrank]

I'm entirely comfortable with the progressive, liberal label. It describes my political and social frame of mind well.

I'm afraid I have to dismiss anyone who believes I might be an "isolated" non violent liberal, because that is just silly. I find it no different than someone who says maybe there is one Man who isn't a dick. Or One woman who doesn't cheat. Or One black person who doesn't commit crime. Or One blonde who isn't an airhead. I tend not to get along with people who make sweeping generalizations, and are proud of it. I won't waste my time or yours'.

I come from a very traditional family. Both parents, married 42 years. 2 siblings. Native Montanan's. My father is career military and my mom stayed at home with the kids. My brother is gay, my sister has a child, and I have a lovely fiance and several 4 legged kids. I don't fit into many generalizations. If you'd like to get to know me, for me, I welcome you. If you'd rather shove me into narrow, preset, categories... don't bother.

Stick around. You may grow on me.

 

[pirate_girl]

I come from a very traditional family. Both parents, married 42 years. 2 siblings. Native Montanan's. My father is career military and my mom stayed at home with the kids. My brother is gay, my sister has a child, and I have a lovely fiance and several 4 legged kids. I don't fit into many generalizations. If you'd like to get to know me, for me, I welcome you. If you'd rather shove me into narrow, preset, categories... don't bother.

Well then, that pretty much gives us here on the forums a general rundown of what you're all about and who you are.
Didn't mean to push you to make an intro thread..
Welcome.

 

[cdajen]

lol, no one pushed me into anything. It's much easier to get all of that out of the way upfront. I have nothing to hide and I'm comfortable in myself. I may stick around, though I won't hold my breath that I'll grow on anyone

 

[Doc]

I would have to say that cdajen is not an isolated progressive, but is one of millions of progressives who are are not violent. The vast majority are not violent or physically aggressive. The small percentage of the progressives who are violent hurt the cause and they get all the headlines.
From what I've seen the progressive side does have more members who attempt to get their message across with violence.

 

[Melensdad]

From what I've seen the progressive side does have more members who attempt to get their message across with violence.

Clearly true.

And if you look at the history of political destruction and political violence in the United States its full of progressives/liberals/etc who have chosen the path of destruction and/or violence to achieve their actions.

And if you look at the history of media reporting of destruction and/or violence in the United States its full of progressive/liberal reporters who try to blame the conservatives for acts of violence . . . only later to find out that the acts were not actually committed by conservatives.

 

[Big Dog]

All you have to do is read some MSM political comment boards to see which side is the most uncivil to make your own generalization. The sites I visit the progressives overwhelmingly are first and free with name calling and abuse.

All sides do it but with the left it's usually their first call for defense.

 

[tiredretired]

There is no question that the liberal / progressive side does more violence than the right. It is their MO. Do all do it? Of course not. It is silly to say so.

Watching the Five yesterday and Beckel was commenting on the surprisingly good welcome he got at one of Hannity's concerts with Lynyrd Skynyrd. Some booed but it was stopped. I try to picture the type of welcome Hannity would get at a liberal concert with one of their favorite performers. Hypothetical, but just saying.

The media has been trying for a couple years now to get some choice video on one of us Tea Baggers spitting or accosting those with a dissenting opinion. If it was out there the Lamestream Media would of had it edited, polished and turned into a feature length IMAX movie in no time.

 

[Melensdad]

There is no question that the liberal / progressive side does more violence than the right. It is their MO. . .

Correct, in fact it is outlined on HOW to be disruptive in several books on the topic left wing advancement.

 

[Doc]

There is no question that the liberal / progressive side does more violence than the right. It is their MO. Do all do it? Of course not. It is silly to say so.

Watching the Five yesterday and Beckel was commenting on the surprisingly good welcome he got at one of Hannity's concerts with Lynyrd Skynyrd. Some booed but it was stopped. I try to picture the type of welcome Hannity would get at a liberal concert with one of their favorite performers. Hypothetical, but just saying.

The media has been trying for a couple years now to get some choice video on one of us Tea Baggers spitting or accosting those with a dissenting opinion. If it was out there the Lamestream Media would of had it edited, polished and turned into a feature length IMAX movie in no time.

Well said TR.

 

[CityGirl]

Clearly true.

And if you look at the history of political destruction and political violence in the United States its full of progressives/liberals/etc who have chosen the path of destruction and/or violence to achieve their actions.

Those damn colonial rebels! How dare they demonstrate their disgust with the crown and with the corporatocracy of the day by resorting to acts of violence and vandalism!

I viewed the video that is the subject of all this hullaballoo. What I noticed is the woman began speaking and women around her began to put their hands on her and the woman to her right got right up in her face telling her "Wait until she's done" and then repeatedly said "zip it" each time getting more and more into the woman's face. The spitting woman said "get out of my face" and the 'zip it' woman said something unintelligible at which point the woman spit on her. Come on folks, if you had just watched the video without any background information, you would be reacting a little differently because you would have seen a woman attempting to speak, others around her putting their hands on her and being verbally accosted by a woman who violated her personal space without backing down. I know some of you peacocks around here would have hauled off and planted a left hook on anyone that got up in your face telling you to "zip it". The woman certainly didn't help her cause by spitting, but dang if many of us would put up with someone getting up in our faces without reacting in somewhat the same fashion or worse. It wasn't as if the spit was without some sort of provocation.

The accompanying introductions to this viral video are a hoot, too. ex. Breitbart "83-year-old Mary Hoglund has trouble expressing her hatred for Mitt Romney without spitting in her fellow citizens' face in Wisconsin." http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/08/17/Pro-Obama-Protester-Spits-On-Romney-Supporter

MEANWHILE back at the banks, the real threats to our freedom, those who created the economic tsunami that threatens to take the nation under, go on unassailed. Wouldn't you just love to spit in some of their faces???

 

[cdajen]

Well said citygirl

 

[Melensdad]

. . . The woman certainly didn't help her cause by spitting . . .

At least you admitted she spit in the face of the other woman.

From my perspective the woman was trying to be disruptive. Can't see that anyone can argue with that. The other women were not getting in her face but were trying to ask her to calm down and listen. She would have none of it. She lost her cool and she spit in the face of the woman next to her. Hopefully assault charges were filed against her, she deserves to sit in jail for a night to cool off and pay a hefty fine.

PS: While I agree that the big banks are a huge problem that is not the topic of this thread.​

 

[CityGirl]

At least you admitted she spit in the face of the other woman.

What does that mean? Is there any dispute that the woman spit in the other woman's face?

From my perspective the woman was trying to be disruptive. Can't see that anyone can argue with that.

Disruptive in that she interrupted the speaker to pose a question. She did raise her hand and she was not yelling.

The other women were not getting in her face but were trying to ask her to calm down and listen.She would have none of it. She lost her cool and she spit in the face of the woman next to her.

What version of the video were you watching, Bob? The only truthful part of your lack of observation as stated above is when you say "the other women were not getting in her face". Correct only in that women, plural, were not in her face BUT woman, singular, could have been frickin' rubbing noses with her she was so in her face! For crying out loud!

Hopefully assault charges were filed against her, she deserves to sit in jail for a night to cool off and pay a hefty fine.

No doubt she will be charged with assault (especially since everyone knows HIV is transmitted in spit. )

PS: While I agree that the big banks are a huge problem that is not the topic of this thread.

PS While everyone is distracted with all things stupid regarding political elections, I think it is prudent to keep reminding folks where the real issues remain.

 

[Melensdad]

FYI, if you spit on someone it is legally chargeable as assault.

Ditto if a fast food worker spits in your food, that too is assault.

Liberals, oddly enough, seem to do all the spitting.

 

[Kane]

PS While everyone is distracted with all things stupid regarding political elections, I think it is prudent to keep reminding folks where the real issues remain.

Exactly. In the meantime, we come nearer our own fiscal oblivion and Ahmadenijad is still building his bomb.