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How would those style of bearing tracks work compaired to a standard rubber track for longgivity....
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IS TUCKER STILL KING?
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How would those style of bearing tracks work compaired to a standard rubber track for longgivity....
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The metal tracks last a very long time as evidenced by the still running 743s out there and other various metal track Tuckes. The problem comes with the roller bearings the metal tracks connct to the pontoons with. If someone could fab some up cheaply enough then That would be the way to go. The metal tracks cannot detrack. The metal tracks last a hell of allot longer than rubber tracks.
Lyndon
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In response to Pirate Girl's query:"So, is a Tucker the Largest of Snow Cats"?
That or # 2. They did build some even bigger machines, but if one counts Nodwell's, which are really more of a giant Muskeg tractor, the Largest Stock Prooduction tracked machine would probably be a Nodwell Super Chieftan. Have to search around for some pictures.
That or # 2. They did build some even bigger machines, but if one counts Nodwell's, which are really more of a giant Muskeg tractor, the Largest Stock Prooduction tracked machine would probably be a Nodwell Super Chieftan. Have to search around for some pictures.
Lyndon
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One of the employees of the Tucker company, having been their Head Salesman for many years told me that Tucker produced a 600, or 800, that was so big that a standard Tucker 443 would fit on the back crosswise like a spare tire. And there are pictures but I'm having a hard time finding them. I believe that they are the ones on the very first posting that starts out this Thread. They certainly build some LARGE Snow Cats.
![TuckerSnowCat[1].jpg](https://www.forumsforums.com/data/attachments/14/14000-da7e8b808f30b0317182fa60dc01d4e5.jpg?hash=2n6LgI8wsD "TuckerSnowCat[1].jpg")
Thanks for the pics Lyndon!! 
Snowcat Operations
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Is that a 743 on the rear deck of that Tucker?.....
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mtncrawler
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Is there any reliable information as to how many 55 gallon drums full of spare track bearings are necessary to get a steel tracked Tucker to go 21 hundred and 58 miles?
Bobcat
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Snowcat Operations
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Those units are HUGE! Pretty cool.
Snowcat Operations
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The bearings last a very long time if you grease them as you should.
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Here are a couple of the bigger ones FN600 and Husky8 there are a couple of these used for sale 500K and 350K let me know if you are intrested
Here is a picture of a Husky 8 with the rear tracks off for rebuild this one is 400K with new rear tracks The Nodwell is less @ 150K
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I'm not anti-Tucker, but how many 55 gallon drums of grease did they need (continuing the saga)? I bet they kept warm trying to pump cold, thick grease (unless they had a special formula for keeping the grease pumpable).
Those were (and are) impressive big machines. I've seen some newer models up close and they make my snowcat look like a baby kitten for sure.
Those were (and are) impressive big machines. I've seen some newer models up close and they make my snowcat look like a baby kitten for sure.
mtncrawler
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In reality I'm not anti-Tucker either. In fact we used a 1342 wide track in the early days for a few years. And I rebuilt a 442A with a buddy who even takes it out for exercise once in a while. After using these machines and others I'll say I think steel track Tuckers have their strong points, just not off the packed trails or in the low maintainance per operating hour departments.
Lyndon you may need to quite torturing these poor fellas that don't know or haven't seen or heard of the Trans Antarctic Expedetion this as you know famous sno-cat stuff, this is what has caused me to have cats/Tuckers
Bulldog1401
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Got Pics?
Lyndon
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I started a 'thread' on it called: Ultimate RR Snow Cat in 2006. I don't know how to do the linc, but Bob S or "Doc" can.
Totally "Unobtainable" estimated to be insured at over 3 Million $!( Maybe that Rubels?) sits in some Museum in Moscow. Lots of pictures in Rolls Royce books and literature, with both it's wheels for summer opertion and with the Track and winterization kit. There is a fairly famous painting of Lennin driving it with a bunch of kids in it in the summer, that never got posted on the thread. The Painting has likely fetched substaintial sums when chainging hands, copies being on display in various museums. The painter himself may have been fairly famous.
Totally "Unobtainable" estimated to be insured at over 3 Million $!( Maybe that Rubels?) sits in some Museum in Moscow. Lots of pictures in Rolls Royce books and literature, with both it's wheels for summer opertion and with the Track and winterization kit. There is a fairly famous painting of Lennin driving it with a bunch of kids in it in the summer, that never got posted on the thread. The Painting has likely fetched substaintial sums when chainging hands, copies being on display in various museums. The painter himself may have been fairly famous.
Bobcat
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Lyndon
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Thanks "Bobcat"! I'll have to dig around for that famous painting.
I couldn't find it on the Web, but I know I have it in a book. I suppose it belongs in that thread. I rode from Oxford Ohio to Southern Cal in one of these in 1960, I was in Second grade, and doing a "Long haul" in a 1927 Phantom 1 Rolls Royce was a real blast! I can only imagine that the Rolls Royce Snow Cat would be one of the ultimate "rides"!
I couldn't find it on the Web, but I know I have it in a book. I suppose it belongs in that thread. I rode from Oxford Ohio to Southern Cal in one of these in 1960, I was in Second grade, and doing a "Long haul" in a 1927 Phantom 1 Rolls Royce was a real blast! I can only imagine that the Rolls Royce Snow Cat would be one of the ultimate "rides"!
Bulldog1401
Anybody seen my marbles?
Very very very cool! If we ever get bored and overthrow russia, I want it!!
Lyndon
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Lenins car is a Silver Ghost. The Phantom 1 I rode in was it's next newer replacement, being built 5 years later. They are incredable automobiles. The 'class' and the Luxury ride aside, they are a machinests dream, and a mechanics dream. This model often went 1 or even 2 Million miles! They had a central lubrication system that lubricated about 70 points on the chasis, and sported a Dual Plug, Dual Coil, Dual Distributor ignition system like later Aircraft had. Everything was designed to be repaired. They had Aluminum engines, inovative for the 1920's, and the inline 6 was 7.6 Liters, allowing substaintial speed. They were absolutely silent, so silent that I have been in one when the driver snuck up on a pedestrian and touched them with the front bumper scaring the hell out them! The ride was as close to "Heaven" as is conceivable in an automobile. The one my dad briefly owned was built in Springfield Mass. We paid 3000$ for it in 1959. It recently changed hands for over a million. Comfortably seated 9 passengers, had a 60 gallon Gas tank, got almost 20 MPG, was 21 feet long, and carried 2 complete Tires on wire Wheels, and 4 more spare tires lashed on with leather straps. It had Levels on each driving light and each head light. If you ever get a chance to ride in a Silver Ghost, Phantom 1,2 or 3 (all Pre-WW2) Rolls Royce, don't pass it up! In the dictionary or a thesaurus it should say: Quality/Perfection=Rolls Royce.
Lyndon
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Where's Lyndon?(count 3 cars over from the left, see the little boy?) Our car is the center car out of the 7 cars, standing behind me is my dad, at that time Chairman Of the Math Department at Miami U, at Oxford Ohio.Even though it's not very visable in the photo, it's quite similar to the car on the far right. When this car was built you could buy 100 "T-Models" for the price of this one automobile, but the one Rolls Royce would out run the 100 "T Models". Some 75% of the Rolls Royces ever built still run today! They built almost as many Rolls Royce P 1's as they did ST4's!(about 3000). Parts are a bit more difficult to come by. Famous Quote from Rolls Royce: Rolls Royces never 'Break-down',.. they "Fail to Proceed".(Brittish Humor) The previous owner named this car "THE YELLOW PERIL" a play on the 1800's scare on chinese imigrating into California and because it was perilous to ride in because it broke down! However he must have made all the correct repairs as it NEVER " FAILED TO PROCEED" for us and we drove it from Ohio to California, then on to Florida.
Lyndon
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Rolls Royce pioneered a whole bunch of automotive engineering. They developed and prefected Syncromesh transmission, Caster Steering (Used in every make and model of car & truck currently in production), sodium Filled Valves (In YOUR snow cat!) and pioneered other automotive engine developments still used today. They designed GM's 350 engine! However I doubt that GM builds them to the RR Specs. They still build the finest jet engines available. There's a bit of RR engineering in every car, truck and snow cat.
