How Prepared are you for disasters, outages, etc?

[bczoom]

One item we have not addressed is "laundry" OMG am I gonna miss fabric softener dryer sheets!

Better get to work on a plan here..

franc

Check into something called "Wonder Washer". They're pretty highly rated on all the prepper sites.

 

[Kane]

If you guys are talking nuclear winter SHTF, you all sound like we will do just fine. But the most likely SHTF will simply be the collapse of the financial systems and the associated civil anarchy to follow.

But unless you're talking back to Adam and Eve rebuilding of society, you might be exaggerating the rustic nature of a modern SHTF. Don't get me wrong, the preparedness I see here among all of us is a wonderful thing.

But in reality, when SHTF the manufacturing and agri-businesses are not going to evaporate into a mushroom cloud. The farms will be producing, the bakeries will be running, the bananas will be growing, the ammo manufacturers will be humming and Charmin will still be churning out TP. Even if the Piggly Wiggly got blown to hell the small mom-and-pop storefronts will do a thriving business. And you can still buy most everything you need.

Just not with the US dollar.

The only thing that might really throw us back into the stone age is the complete shutdown of imported oil. But as long as Obama's not in charge we would recover.
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[FrancSevin]

I have an acquaintance who has been collecting gold chains for years in preparation for TEOTWAWKI. As long as there is some semblance and structure of civilization left, he'll possibly be OK but franc is probably right, at the end of the day, toilet paper probably will be of more value as a trade good.

I'm not clear what value base metals such as lead, brass and copper would be except in the form of ammo. Can someone explain it to me? If I've missed something, I need to know.

You know, after 3 months or so things are likely to be pretty desperate for a lot of people. How many do you think have the ability to throw off the constraints of civilization and actually go out there and take what they think that they need. That also raises another point. Is it better to live off your stored goods for 3 months before you start pillaging your neighbors or do you start early in order to preserve what you've got?

Lead for bullets coppor for easily mallible fabrications and repairs.

Copper pipes actually purify water. PVC ones do not.

Can't make hooch without a good copper kettle and some tubing.

Brass, I would tend to agree. But even brass has ease of casting and reisistance to corrsion,,,,,long life for parts in which you will be investing a lot of time and effort. Then there is Braising. Not a weld true but super glue will be scarce.

Keep in mind the Lowes will be closed.

Question, do you know how to make nails? From sheet metal? from Wire?

How about recasting a broken gear, sprocket or even a hammer?

Even as I build, every bent nail goes into a coffee canister for later. Great for forge welding.

 

[FrancSevin]

If you guys are talking nuclear winter SHTF, you all sound like we will do just fine. But the most likely SHTF will simply be the collapse of the financial systems and the associated civil anarchy to follow.

But unless you're talking back to Adam and Eve rebuilding of society, you might be exaggerating the rustic nature of a modern SHTF. Don't get me wrong, the preparedness I see here among all of us is a wonderful thing.

But in reality, when SHTF the manufacturing and agri-businesses are not going to evaporate into a mushroom cloud. The farms will be producing, the bakeries will be running, the bananas will be growing, the ammo manufacturers will be humming and Charmin will still be churning out TP. Even if the Piggly Wiggly got blown to hell the small mom-and-pop storefronts will do a thriving business. And you can still buy most everything you need.

Just not with the US dollar.

The only thing that might really throw us back into the stone age is the complete shutdown of imported oil. But we would recover.
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There are basiocaly two kinds of people here, those who have and those who get by daily trading time for money, spinning the squirrel cage in someone else's money machine.

Kane, for those with financial assets there will be two levels of SHTF. The financial one where the fiat money goes to TP value. Then there is the extreme where your titles to property vanish.

At that point you involve those who have had no assets to lose. Just hungry folks needing shelter and sustinace for their family

Guns, bullets and Gold will be required for the first. But, knowledge, raw materials and resources will cover the second.

I plan to retire on my self sustaining hobby farm. So,,, for me this is a Co-Plan that prepares my wife and I for either eventuality.

In the end, we will be in a position to handle the worst, OR, enjoy the best. OR make a success out of whatever comes along.

The rich will survive with their money. The prepared will survive with their wits.

We are not talking Adam and Eve just fuedal lords and serfs.


franc

 

[FrancSevin]

Check into something called "Wonder Washer". They're pretty highly rated on all the prepper sites.

Yeah, but it does't use Dryer sheets

Quit kidding around,,,,,This is serious pal.

 

[bczoom]

You can add a dryer sheet to anything. Put one in your panties in the morning and you'll smell fresh all day.

 

[muleman]

I would barter that worthless TP the wife bought without a cardboard core. 48 friggin rolls of the damn stuff. Not in my bathroom! We always have at least 3 cases of 48 rolls on hand.

 

[FrancSevin]

You can add a dryer sheet to anything. Put one in your panties in the morning and you'll smell fresh all day.

OK but what is the shelf life of Dryer sheets. Can I use them past thebest by dates?


No panties after SHTF. Going Commando.

 

[muleman]

OK but what is the shelf life of Dryer sheets. Can I use them past thebest by dates?


No panties after SHTF. Going Commando.

OMG! You wear panties like Zoom? Glad I don't have to be around you two. Rusty is bad enough. He gets his off washlines. Tell me you at least buy them!

 

[Kane]

It might be enlightening also to discuss the likely causes of SHingTF and the reach of said calamity. Natural disasters and outages are one thing and the reach fairly predictable.

But for other geo-political man-made disasters the scope and reach of resultant misery is untested. For instance, what might be the misery index for a good dose of cyber-terrorism on the communications grid? The electrical grid?

Or Lord help us, what might be the immediate and prolonged misery of a man-made geo-political oil calamity. My feeling is it could be worse than theater nuclear war or even a reasonably sized asteroid.

Are you sure you're prepared? Looks like FracSevin may be one day before he dies, but the rest of us?
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[tiredretired]

That also raises another point. Is it better to live off your stored goods for 3 months before you start pillaging your neighbors or do you start early in order to preserve what you've got?

Not around here. Everybody has a gun. Start pillaging your neighbors and you're gonna have a short life span, especially in a shoot first ask questions later enviroment.

 

[FrancSevin]

Are you sure you're prepared? Looks like FracSevin may be one day before he dies, but the rest of us?
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One day is all I get? Thanks Good buddy.
Anyone is welcome to take over my stake should that happen. Cathy is amiable and friendly. Not hard to look at either.

As for me, having done my duty and honored my creator, I will be fine.

 

[EastTexFrank]

Not around here. Everybody has a gun. Start pillaging your neighbors and you're gonna have a short life span, especially in a shoot first ask questions later enviroment.

Yea, you're probably right. I live in East Texas and it's pretty much the same around here and most of the ol' boys that I know all shoot better than me too.

 

[Ice Queen]

We are not allowed to have guns over here.

 

[Kane]

One day is all I get? Thanks Good buddy.
Anyone is welcome to take over my stake should that happen. Cathy is amiable and friendly. Not hard to look at either.

As for me, having done my duty and honored my creator, I will be fine.

Yes, FrancSevin, your farmette in Missouri is every man's envy. A place of toil for the body and solitude for the soul. A place where the work is never finished but the joy is complete. A spot of land grounded in self reliance, granted by the almighty. An Eden and refuge in a world of uncertainty.

And above all, it is yours. Given God, toilet paper and enough bullets, just someone dare try to take it away.

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[Kane]

We are not allowed to have guns over here.

Where you from, Ice Queen. Can't tell by your stats.

When I was a kid I wasn't allowed to have cap pistols. But that doesn't mean that I didn't have one. So what are your laws regarding weapons and ownership? A total ban? Yikes. What are the penalties for possession ... and how hard do 'they' look?

Me? I'd feel naked without at least a handgun within reach. But then again, that's just me.

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[bczoom]

IQ is from across the pond. Somewhere in the UK.

Muleman - Don't be dissing my panties. They're super soft and make me feel pretty. It's the little things that make life worth living. BTW, mine are pretty sheer and although not of a dental floss design, there's not a lot to them if you know what I mean. I can't do the dryer sheet thing myself as it looks like an ultra maxi-pad sticking out in all directions. I'm sure Franc's granny panties will cover one just fine.

As for what's going to happen, who knows? My thoughts of most likely aren't a TEOTWAWKI event but more likely something like a financial meltdown or government action which results in rioting.

 

[SShepherd]

IQ is from across the pond. Somewhere in the UK.

Muleman - Don't be dissing my panties. They're super soft and make me feel pretty. It's the little things that make life worth living. BTW, mine are pretty sheer and although not of a dental floss design, there's not a lot to them if you know what I mean. I can't do the dryer sheet thing myself as it looks like an ultra maxi-pad sticking out in all directions. I'm sure Franc's granny panties will cover one just fine.

As for what's going to happen, who knows? My thoughts of most likely aren't a TEOTWAWKI event but more likely something like a financial meltdown or government action which results in rioting.

http://youtu.be/5zey8567bcg

hey, how do you imbed a vid now? doesn't seem to work like it did

 

[Doc]

I read that youtube was not real fond of all the embedding going on with their vids. I'll look into it and see if it is possible for us to fix.

Also note: I moved some posts about the dollar to their own thread since they were really OT for this thread.

 

[FrancSevin]

Yes, FrancSevin, your farmette in Missouri is every man's envy. A place of toil for the body and solitude for the soul. A place where the work is never finished but the joy is complete. A spot of land grounded in self reliance, granted by the almighty. An Eden and refuge in a world of uncertainty.

And above all, it is yours. Given God, toilet paper and enough bullets, just someone dare try to take it away.

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Damm Kane. That's pretty good stuff. I like it as it says everything perfectly.

You should write that down somewhere.