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Bob Barr on Marriage
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Bulldog1401
Anybody seen my marbles?
So you are married in Alabama, but not in Georgia? Have to get remarried everytime you change states?
Bobcat
Je Suis Charlie Hebdo
So you are married in Alabama, but not in Georgia? Have to get remarried everytime you change states?
It would be the same as drivers licenses, I would think. Got a drivers license for every state you enter?
I don't believe marriage should have any standing in govt anyway.
daedong
New member
So you are married in Alabama, but not in Georgia? Have to get remarried everytime you change states?
Good one, I like to see someone is thinking rather than rhetoric
Bobcat
Je Suis Charlie Hebdo
The main point he's making, since he's competing for a federal position (PotUS), is that the federal govt is expressly forbidden in the constitution from being involved in this issue. The 'conservative' members here believe the constitution should be modified to forbid, or at least not recognise, same sex marriage while the 'liberals' believe it should me modified to allow and recognise it.
Bobcat
Je Suis Charlie Hebdo
Apparently neither of you were, if you understand my responses above.
I looked again, but I seem to missing the 'rhetoric' you speak of, unless by that you mean it was persuasive.
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AndyM
Charter Member
So it's ok to someone to marry six women, three men, and a penguin at the same time?
daedong
New member
If that's what they want to do.
AndyM
Charter Member
So you're saying that the laws being created allowing two women or two men to marry one another are wrong, as marriage should not be regulated at all?
Then in that case, Vin, you can marry all the men and women who lack medical insurance, add them to your carrier's family coverage, and presto... health care problem is solved!
AndyM
Charter Member
I would sure hope they wouldn't be discriminatory in their coverage based on marital status.
AndyM
Charter Member
Sounds like the medical insurance companies have more power than governments... no wonder government wants to run health care.
Bobcat
Je Suis Charlie Hebdo
Remember, the U.S.Constitution is a document defining and limiting the power of govt, not of individuals and organizations. I can be just as prejudice, discriminating, and bigoted as I want. If I don't want to sell you my car because I think you're too skinny, and I tell you so, there isn't a damned thing you can do about it. But there's no sense or money in it, so I won't.
But there's no sense or money in it, so I won't.
AndyM
Charter Member
Exactly! But if an individual or organization gets too much power, the federal government strips that power or takes it over from them.
American Woman
Banned
Redneck and I voted early today. This is the vote we had to agree to disagree.
His argument is because the Bible says so. My argument is the government is shoving their Bible down our throat. Your religion is your choice in America. Maybe the term marriage should be changed to a legal union? Even a church wedding has to be made legal when all is said and done. Who you marry should not be for the Government or Bible to decide.
If it's about the Bible then why are Atheists getting married legally all the time?
His argument is because the Bible says so. My argument is the government is shoving their Bible down our throat. Your religion is your choice in America. Maybe the term marriage should be changed to a legal union? Even a church wedding has to be made legal when all is said and done. Who you marry should not be for the Government or Bible to decide.
If it's about the Bible then why are Atheists getting married legally all the time?
Deadly Sushi
The One, The Only, Sushi
Logically queers should be able to marry but I just want to kick their deformed asses up. I KNOW..... I KNOW...... that sounds bad. Something inside of me wants to. I think because I was raised with that mentality its seeded within. 
Those queers you speak of should have every right to do whatever the hell they want to do Paul.Logically queers should be able to marry but I just want to kick their deformed asses up. I KNOW..... I KNOW...... that sounds bad. Something inside of me wants to. I think because I was raised with that mentality its seeded within.
My baby sister was a lesbian. If she were still alive and had told me she and Gina were getting married, I would have been all for it.
Government shouldn't stick their noses in such matters.
I know I've said before that church and state should be intertwined when it comes to my belief as a Catholic, but when it comes to someone I loved dearly, and her beliefs were so not like mine (anymore at least).. I would have been all for her doing as she pleased and being in a union that made her so very happy while she was on this earth.
Bobcat
Je Suis Charlie Hebdo
I was referring to when she was growing up in the family Bob, and she finally "came out" and announced she was gay.
She rejected all previous religious thoughts and teaching that she was raised with within our family.
My mother was devastated at first. I knew she was gay, she left the church and lost a lot of friends.
Surprisingly, Dad wasn't at all disturbed, but myself and my brother stood behind her the most during that time.
Deadly Sushi
The One, The Only, Sushi
So something Jesus is against and hates, we should let it just be a normal thing in this Country?
WWJD Paul? How do YOU know Jesus would be against it if he were walking on the earth right now?
He was all about love and He still is.
If two gay people love one another and don't make a big fuss about it, who is anyone to say it's right or wrong?
Alonzo Tubbs
Carpe Diem
I've got to go with PG on this. Abraham Lincoln once said the right of a man's fist ended where his neighbor's nose began. In other words, we are free to do anything which harms no one else. Personally, I find homosexuality repugnent which is why I don't engage in it. Others are free to do as they wish. It's none of my business.
'Lonzo
'Lonzo
American Woman
Banned
I don't think Jesus "hated" anything.
"Jesus said, neither do I condemn. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone"
I'm not usually one to throw the Bible at anyone, because I don't want it thrown at me. But if anyone is going to use Jesus to justify disdain, or hate towards mankind then be prepared to hear what he said. Notice I didn't say the Bible....There are too many contradictions from too many people that wrote books in the Bible with their own twist. Jesus was the same.
Christ had a reputation for hanging out with the wrong crowd. Tax collectors, lepers and prostitutes among others were his friends, and his message was relatively simple: Love one another.
Bulldog1401
Anybody seen my marbles?
It would be the same as drivers licenses, I would think. Got a drivers license for every state you enter?
You missed it. Drivers licenses affect your right(or privlege) to drive a car, which affects only you. Marriage (the civilly binding contract affects child custody, real property, power of attorney, and inheritences.
Deadly Sushi
The One, The Only, Sushi
Someone cant just DO anything they want ya know. It says in the Bible God abhoars the practice of being gay. God does NOT condone these things. Nor would he approve of gay marriage, since he doesnt approve of being gay. Its in the bible folks. You cant pick and choose things that make life more convienient. Either you take it 100% or not.
There are consequences for not following Gods Word even though He loves that person. Man, you folks would have HATED me when I was a Born Again Christian
Now... I dont give a shit WHAT gays do. I think they are born with a brain defect that makes them the way they are. Same as an alcoholic or gambler that addicted. So I say let the queers do whatever they want behind their doors. Get married, I dont care. Also, I feel that, as long as the Gov't doesnt pay for abortions, its up to the woman if they want to murder their own child legally. The Gov't will allow them the rope to hang themselves. its their choice.
There are consequences for not following Gods Word even though He loves that person. Man, you folks would have HATED me when I was a Born Again Christian
Now... I dont give a shit WHAT gays do. I think they are born with a brain defect that makes them the way they are. Same as an alcoholic or gambler that addicted. So I say let the queers do whatever they want behind their doors. Get married, I dont care. Also, I feel that, as long as the Gov't doesnt pay for abortions, its up to the woman if they want to murder their own child legally. The Gov't will allow them the rope to hang themselves. its their choice.
Bobcat
Je Suis Charlie Hebdo
You missed it. Currently, your eligibility to be married or have a drivers license is determined at the state level. Barr and the Liberatrian party says it should stay there and not become a federal issue.