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Big Dog said:
This is a standard pedigree guarantee, prevents exploiting the bloodline with a damaged dog.

I'm assuming this is for a bought puppy. If your trying to "protect" the bloodline, just have it in writing that the dog must be spayed or neutered within six months.
 
dzalphakilo said:
I'm assuming this is for a bought puppy. If your trying to "protect" the bloodline, just have it in writing that the dog must be spayed or neutered within six months.

Yes, this is for a puppy. Item 1 in the warranty addresses the issue of spaying or neutering. If the owner seeks refund, the breeder protects the bloodline and frankly knows your not going to down the dog!

Soiling of the bloodline happens when a damaged dog is bred and the bloodline reputation suffers. I do not know how registration is affected when positive results from x-rays are presented to the AKC.
 
BD, just so you know where I'm coming from, the pic is from the "old" county shelter where they killed all the stray animals in my area. See that box? It's located in a landfill (a dump). I'd show a video, but I'll save you from seeing it. Picture two guys going around taking TWENTY dogs and stuffing them into that box, then TRYING to close the lid. The sound those dogs make are another noise.

When I see that, it's hard for me to understand why people breed dogs.


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dzalphakilo said:
BD, just so you know where I'm coming from, the pic is from the "old" county shelter where they killed all the stray animals in my area. See that box? It's located in a landfill (a dump). I'd show a video, but I'll save you from seeing it. Picture two guys going around taking TWENTY dogs and stuffing them into that box, then closing the lid. The sound those dogs make are another noise.

When I see that, it's hard for me to understand why people breed dogs.

635 yards from the oak tree up the hill to this box.

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Understood.................... :mad::(!
 
It is unfortunate that the people that are charged with enforcing the cruelty laws, are also the biggest offenders of these cruelty laws. There are way too many unwanted dogs and cats in this country. I don't believe that is something that you can lay at the feet of the breeders, puppy mills, or the pet shops. It squarely rests on the shoulders of the people that get an animal and when they decide that they don't want it any longer, they set it free, to roam, breed, and get killed. In MA, the spay / neuter has become so effective, that there is actually a shortage of puppies for adoption. It is unfortunate that more people won't consider adopting an older dog that just needs a home. It is the same way with children. They can adopt out a infant, but once they get to be much more than 2 years old, they just wind up in foster care for the rest of their childhood, until they turn 18, when they are turned loose.
 
Junkman said:
It squarely rests on the shoulders of the people that get an animal and when they decide that they don't want it any longer, they set it free, to roam, breed, and get killed. In MA, the spay / neuter has become so effective, that there is actually a shortage of puppies for adoption. It is unfortunate that more people won't consider adopting an older dog that just needs a home. It is the same way with children. They can adopt out a infant, but once they get to be much more than 2 years old, they just wind up in foster care for the rest of their childhood, until they turn 18, when they are turned loose.

I don't want to get into a "north vrs south" debate again, however, we do see a difference "overall" in the way animals are treated and tolerated, geographically (sp?) in the U.S.

Long range goal would to have a "railroad" from south to north for unwanted pets to find loving homes. Perhaps a pipe dream.

As for the breeders and puppy mills, as long as they have a set of guidlines to follow and have "standards" for homes for thier animals. However, from what I've seen, on average, standards take a back seat to making money, which is reason why you're in business in the first place. On that note, while I may not agree 110% with everything Trinity labs "states" per their website, it seems that they have a genuine interest in their dogs and where they go. That's a whole lot better than some other places I've seen. We don't live in a perfect world, and dogs are at the bottom of the food chain, however....Junkman, I'd like to see the policies of those puppy mills you've mentioned. Keep in mind, Clover, the dog in my avatar came from a "puppy mill" so yes, I am biased.

But, on a side note, my wife is up in Vermont for the next couple of days, so, the cat stays outside at night, and I'll have a bunch of four legged critters on the bed with me! :D
 
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