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Turns out I have the Long Covid.

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I did not test however, this is my fourth episode the Chinese flu.

Caught it whilst in Buffalo NY for three days. Working on a packaging line at a small bakery.

Plenty of contact with the locals at the bakery and the hotel. After success with the machine I received some kisses on the cheek from happy girls on the crew.

Sniffles started the day I got home. Fever and clogged sinuses.

This went on for three weeks. By Christmas, I was suffering a spontaneous bloody nose once or twice a day. That seems to have subsided but all my muscles hurt. Upper arms and lower back mostly.

I woke this morning to painless relief but it lasted only until noon.

So I am going on my fifth week with symptoms. Not debilitating. Just annoying. Crumpy wants me to see a doctor. For what?

I told her to call an ambulance. If the crew can subdue me I'll have to submit. Otherwise I'm staying home.

At any rate, if you get this new bug, 2 fingers of Scotch and two aspirin do the trick,

No, they don't cure it. But, enough Scotch and it don'th madder
 

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I am not a doctor, not even close but it sounds like you need some antibiotics.
 

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I am not a doctor, not even close but it sounds like you need some antibiotics.
I'm not a doctor either. But, I did spend two years in medical school. So, to some degree I am close.
Please, ya'll hold the scolding about a doctor/patient medicating himself. It is insulting.


That all said,,,;
You are quite right, and I have Antibiotics on hand. However, they work on bacterial infections, they do not work on viral flues.

My symptoms, right now, are pain and weakness. Not sure Antibiotics would work. So, I am old school.

Aspirin, I take two twice a day, and two low dose Benadryl. These are not a cure but provide benefit in comfort of the symptoms.

I do wash them down with an ounce or two of single malt. Or cold coffee.

There is no cure available for Covid flues. But at least I feel some-what better.

What bothers me is the time. How long am I infectious?
 

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What bothers me is the time. How long am I infectious?
From what I can tell only the day or so before you get a fever to perhaps a couple days after your fever is gone.

I got the WuFlu in early November. A mild case, 2 days of body aches that felt like arthritis. Then fever for a few hours, chills, etc on the 2nd day of the body aches. Next day mild headache and sore throat, both gone by noon. About 2 weeks later I started coughing. A lot. Daily. First week of January now, so roughly 2 months since I got Covid, and I am still coughing. Happy to say less so, not all day, not all night. I can actually go several hours without coughing. But when it starts I can't stop it.

I don't have the true LONG COVID in any way similar to what you have, but I have something and all my doctors know it.

Because of my foot surgery about 12 days before Christmas I was in and out of various doctor's offices. Every one of them, from my cardiologist, to my rheumatologist, to the surgeon (twice) to sports orthopedic specialist that also gave me an exam to the anestesiologist all saw/heard me cough. All knew about my Covid. One of them said it is the 100 day cough, even said his wife and kids are experiencing the exact same thing. None had any answer, any treatment, any cure. . . and none seemed concerned. I found relief in Flonase as it clears the sinuses, which reduces post nasal drip, which then helps reduce the cough. XLEAR nasal spray also helps, it contains Xylitol and seems to work pretty well too.

I'm not a fan of scotch, but I do find a bit of bourbon helps relax the symptoms.
 

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Your case is different because you are already seeing your doctors. And having surgery.
Although this may be the 100 day cough,,,;
I really don't need to bother mine.
I have enough Scotch for January. In case of an emergency, the liquor store is close by
 
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Your case is different because you are already seeing your doctors.
. . .
ihave enough Scotch for January. In case of an emergency, the liquor store is close by
I only saw the doctors because I had surgery scheduled. Had it not been for the scheduled surgery I would have not bothered to see any of the doctors. But the surgeon required a couple of check ups or he would not perform the surgery.

As for the liquor store, you were smarter than me, mine is a bit of drive to get to :17875:
 

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I did some research. It turns out I am suffering from Covid Myositis. Random Joint pain . It will last for about 30 days

Wonderful

Myositis as a rare manifestation of COVID-19 is only recently being reported. This review examines the current literature on COVID-19-induced myositis focusing on etiopathogenesis, clinical presentations, diagnostic practices, and therapeutic challenges with immunosuppression, and the difficulties experienced by rheumatologists in established myositis in the COVID-19 era.

Recent Findings​

COVID-19 is associated with a viral myositis attributable to direct myocyte invasion or induction of autoimmunity. COVID-19-induced myositis may be varied in presentation, from typical dermatomyositis to rhabdomyolysis, and a paraspinal affliction with back pain. It may or may not present with acute exponential elevations of enzyme markers such as creatine kinase (CK). Virus-mediated muscle inflammation is attributed to ACE2 (angiotensin-converting enzyme) receptor–mediated direct entry and affliction of muscle fibers, leading on to innate and adaptive immune activation. A greater recognition of the stark similarity between anti-MDA5-positive myositis with COVID-19 has thrown researchers into the alley of exploration — finding common etiopathogenic basis as well as therapeutic strategies. For patients with established myositis, chronic care was disrupted during the pandemic with several logistic challenges and treatment dilemmas leading to high flare rates. Teleconsultation bridged the gap while ushering in an era of patient-led care with the digital transition to tools of remote disease assessment.

Summary​

COVID-19 has brought along greater insight into unique manifestations of COVID-19-related myositis, ranging from direct virus-induced muscle disease to triggered autoimmunity and other etiopathogenic links to explore. A remarkable shift in the means of delivering chronic care has led patients and caregivers worldwide to embrace a virtual shift with teleconsultation and opened doorways to a new era of patient-led care.
Keywords: COVID-19, Myositis, Idiopathic inflammatory myopathy, Rhabdomyolysis, Dermatomyositis, Myasthenia, Telemedicine, Tele-triage, Immunopathogenesis
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Introduction​

The ongoing Coronavirus disease 2 pandemic (COVID-19) has brought several interesting observations to the fore, ranging from virus-induced muscle disease to a possibility of virus-triggered inflammation in patients with long-standing chronic autoimmune diseases [1, 2]. The initial pandemic period left physicians grappling with the uncertainty of the course of COVID-19 in patients with severe and disabling rheumatic diseases, in particular the idiopathic inflammatory myopathies (IIM) [3•]. Moreover, extended lockdowns in various parts of the world hampered mobility and access to care for most patients [4••].
COVID-19 is a multisystem disease that presents with a plethora of manifestations involving the lungs, liver, kidneys, and gastrointestinal tract, among others. Emerging evidence suggests that the acute inflammatory response and production of autoantibodies contribute to morbidity observed in COVID-19 [5]. Lasting effects are observed in some individuals at 6 months or even longer after recovery. While fever, cough, and sore throat have been the most reported symptoms associated with the disease, published case reports have recently started to describe more atypical and rarer presentations of infection with Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). It is apparent now that the musculoskeletal system is not spared either [6] with musculoskeletal manifestations of COVID-19 ranging from a mild elevation of creatine kinase (CK) with mild or no weakness to severe rhabdomyolysis.
This review aims to examine current knowledge available on COVID-19-related myositis, including but not limited to the presentation, diagnostic challenges, currently proposed disease mechanisms, and management. Furthermore, we discuss the complexity of administering immunosuppressive treatment in diagnosed cases of IIM, who may be at risk for contracting COVID-19. We also explore the effect of the pandemic on the management of the idiopathic inflammatory myopathies (IIM) and the proposed directions for care of these debilitating disorders in the future.
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Muscle Involvement in COVID-19​

Alongside the typical respiratory manifestations like cough, fever, and sore throat, proximal muscle weakness is increasingly being reported as a manifestation causing significant morbidity in occasional COVID-19 patients. Myalgia is reported extensively in the literature as a common musculoskeletal manifestation of COVID-19 infection, presenting in nearly half of all COVID-19-infected patients. COVID-19-related myositis and consequently rhabdomyolysis are other reported manifestations, albeit relatively rare [7, 8]. By July 2020, a single case of COVID-19-related myositis had been reported in the literature [9]. Since then, several case reports and series reporting a virus-induced myositis attributed to COVID-19 disease have been published. The muscle involvement may vary from an asymptomatic elevation of CK to severe rhabdomyolysis.

Acute Viral Myositis​

Nearly 23 patient cases of myositis attributable to COVID-19 have been described so far. COVID-19-induced myositis may vary in presentation, ranging from frank muscle weakness to typical dermatomyositis replete with classic rashes, or mere back pain with muscle disease on MRI. Most patients test positive for COVID-19 on initial presentation with most reported being males aged 33–87. Noteworthily, COVID–19 may or may not present with acute exponential elevations of enzyme markers such as CK, and muscle enzymes may not necessarily have a direct bearing on prognosis.

Rhabdomyolysis​

Rhabdomyolysis is one of the rare and severe complications of COVID-19 infection which can be an initial presentation in some cases [10, 11]. In such cases, patients present with typical COVID-19 symptoms such as fever, cough, myalgia, and shortness of breath as well as manifest acute lower limb–dominant symmetric muscle weakness and subsequently go on to develop rhabdomyolysis associated with elevated CK levels. A study reported a peak CK value as high as 33,000 U/L [12•]. In this setting, they may present with frank muscle weakness, which is profound, proximal, lower limb–dominant, acute, and symmetric. At times, the patients are critically ill and requiring ventilatory support. The only manifestation of rhabdomyolysis in these may be myoglobinuria (dark urine) and acute kidney injury (AKI) needing hemodialysis with raised CK >5000 IU/L [13•, 14•, 15•]. Rhabdomyolysis can be fatal, with casualties reported in nearly 45% (4 of 9 reported) of those with this presentation over a short follow-up duration (Table (Table1).1). Among all reported cases (n = 23) of COVID-19-related myositis so far, 21.7% (n = 5) succumbed to the illness of which 80% (n=4) had rhabdomyolysis.
 
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I had covid in 3021. It lasted about 2 weeks. I was very weak and then it went away. I still have no sense of smell or taste. I also have shortness of breath. I have not been to a doctor or had any vaccines. One positive side to it is that I can eat Spam and it tastes just like a ribeye. Gotta look on the bright side.
 

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Yesterday, when I posted about 2:45, I was lucid and felt fine except for some shoulder pain, lower back pain and weakness. About10:00 I went to the dark side. 102 F fever and everything hurts.
Delerium and pain all night.
It's 2:30 PM and I am just now becoming lucid. At least for me anyway. Pretty much what I suffered a year ago with the second COVID-19
attack.
Everything hurts.
I need assistance to get up from the couch.

We home tested today and yes, I have COVID.

I would surely like to hand this infection over to Dr Fauci.

Meanwhile, back to bed.
 
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Ivermectin. I have friends who use it if they fell something coming on with good success. Heck if I had some here I would
have tried it while we had influenza B over the holidays.
Hydroxy chloroquine with Ivermectin is the true magic bullet if you can find some.

Good luck Franc no one likes to be less than their best.
 

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Ivermectin. I have friends who use it if they fell something coming on with good success. Heck if I had some here I would
have tried it while we had influenza B over the holidays.
Hydroxy chloroquine with Ivermectin is the true magic bullet if you can find some.

Good luck Franc no one likes to be less than their best.
I know a doctor near where I live who prescribed those two meds for me when I had the government virus a few weeks ago and the symptoms were gone in less that two days.
 

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I know a doctor near where I live who prescribed those two meds for me when I had the government virus a few weeks ago and the symptoms were gone in less that two days.
Thanks

Nice to know a doctor who will.
I am going to tough it for a while, a few days.

My doctor may well do it also. Good guy I have known since he left medical school
 

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Yesterday, when I posted about 2:45, I was lucid and felt fine except for some shoulder pain, lower back pain and weakness. About10:00 I went to the dark side. 102 F fever and everything hurts.
Delerium and pain all night.
It's 2:30 PM and I am just now becoming lucid. At least for me anyway. Pretty much what I suffered a year ago with the second COVID-19
attack.
Everything hurts.
I need assistance to get up from the couch.

We home tested today and yes, I have COVID.

I would surely like to hand this infection over to Dr Fauci.

Meanwhile, back to bed.
How many time is this for you now Franc? Ive had it twice.
 

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How many time is this for you now Franc? Ive had it twice.
This will be number four.

I have a weakness to flue viruses. Back in1968 Crumpy got me through the Hong Kong flue, barely. After that I had to marry her.

She pulls me through every year.

I used to get the shot. However it seldom worked, Instead I got the symptom. So I got in the habit of scheduling when I would be sick.
 

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The covid I got in 2021,the DELTA version was pretty rough and the wife almost died spending a few weeks in the hospital with pneumonia. The last time we got it, it was very mild and we both were good to go even before testing negative. I never got a fever either time but the wife did both times. Good luck with it and keep us posted.
 

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The covid I got in 2021,the DELTA version was pretty rough and the wife almost died spending a few weeks in the hospital with pneumonia. The last time we got it, it was very mild and we both were good to go even before testing negative. I never got a fever either time but the wife did both times. Good luck with it and keep us posted.
This one is, in my experience, very much like the Delta. Not quite as severe,,, so far.
My temperature leveled out at 97 F this evening. That, for me is normal.
One thing I noticed and for which I have no explanation, Painkillers were worthless. Aspirin, booze, Tylenol, even a drug Crumpy had when she was postoperative.
But heat pads killed it cold.
My arms hurt, my back, my legs, a bean bag warmed up in the microwave stifled the pain very well.

I don't know if I am over this now, but I am feeling pretty good tonite.
And blessed.
This COVID crap kills people my age.
 

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Take care of yourself. I've been lucky enough to avoid covid though the first round did present itself in our home. At the time we had a foster child staying with us. She came home with it but was mild and didn't have anything any worse than a regular cold. We just kept her isolated for 5 days until she tested negative. 8 of us in the house at the time and she was the only one.
 

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Thanks

Nice to know a doctor who will.
I am going to tough it for a while, a few days.

My doctor may well do it also. Good guy I have known since he left medical school
There is a pharmacy in Tennessee that can prescribe it over the phone as a MAINTENANCE drug. They cannot prescribe it for a CURE. The place is called

RX Compound Center Pharmacy
Columbia, TN
931-388-3999
Monday-Friday, 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM

They can legally send Ivermectin to some states but not others. You have to tell them you want Ivermectin to protect you from getting the virus.
 

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This group, with doctors affiliated across the country, will help with Ivermectin and other drugs, they have protocols on other supplements they recommend be used to reduce pain, congestion, etc. This is the doctor who started prescribing ivermectin, who testified in congress, and then started pushing it after getting censored by YouTube . . .

 

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Still suffering this morning. Congestion has returned. Fever is up. Body aches are up.
And I am coughing again. So my hopes of being over this are mistaken.
 
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Yes. That I have had to some degree since about December 7th, just a few days after my trip to Buffalo NY. At first I attributed it to the 1.500 miles of nonstop driving and my age. Never suffered it before, but then, I am 76.
 

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Franc, hope you are feeling better.
1500 miles of non stop driving? How long were you on the road? 25 hours? :wow:
About eleven hours each way. 750 mild to Buffalo/East Rochester NY.
Bad weather along Lake Erie. Otherwise, easy.

I once drove to Seatle/Tacoma in 36 hours straight. Pulling a 20feet flatbed loaded with a packaging line.
But I was a lot younger then.
'Still foolish but older.

As to my current health,,,,, :( (n)

 
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