Donald Trump Prosecution Appears Fatally Flawed—Legal Experts

[Patriot]

MSN

This case in NYC brought by DA Bragg against former President Trump really reveals that legal cases against him are driven by hatred and political motivation, and not actual concerns for illegality on his part.

The key in the article cited is where they reveal what it is that Trump did they believe to be illegal. It states "...Trump paid, or discussed paying, the two women not to disclose alleged affairs with them, thereby influencing voters as to his character."

That is hilariously flimsy. Not only is paying hush money not illegal, it is done all the time. You can make your own judgement calls as to Trump's character since this has been revealed, but even if you believe, as I do, that Trump did have extramarital affairs, that is not illegal. If it were, there'd be a whole lot more people in jail, that's for sure.

Meanwhile, the leftist media and former intel "experts" covered for Biden before the 2020 election by declaring the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop, which revealed likely bribery paid from China to Joe, to be Russian disinformation. That was not because they feared Joe would be put on trial anytime soon, but rather because it would negatively influence voter perception of him. His character might be impugned. Yet, nobody is seriously pursuing that cover up in the name of election fraud.

 

[Melensdad]

Just because the cases are obviously biased, flawed and politically motivated does not mean that a partisan jury won't convict.

And in each of these high profile cases, the juries are very friendly to the prosecution because the jury pool is heavily biased against Trump.

Don't underestimate the bias of the jurors to make bad choices.

 

[waybomb]

Kangaroo court

 

[Patriot]

Just because the cases are obviously biased, flawed and politically motivated does not mean that a partisan jury won't convict.

And in each of these high profile cases, the juries are very friendly to the prosecution because the jury pool is heavily biased against Trump.

Don't underestimate the bias of the jurors to make bad choices.

I would not be surprised if they convict Trump. However, most reasonable people in this country would not convict him in this case. Therefore, if they convict him it will only serve to further his point that he's being politically persecuted, and more people will empathize with him. If they actually put him in jail, it will absolutely guarantee his re-election.

These leftists are so filled with blind hatred for Trump they do not see that their true motivations are revealed the more ridiculous their efforts against him become. They are helping him and don't see it.

 

[tommu56]

Just because the cases are obviously biased, flawed and politically motivated does not mean that a partisan jury won't convict.

And in each of these high profile cases, the juries are very friendly to the prosecution because the jury pool is heavily biased against Trump.

Don't underestimate the bias of the jurors to make bad choices.

Hopefully there's one sane one with some backbone to prevent the other jury from influencing them fo go with the crowd. and make it hung jury.

 

[Doc]

I would not be surprised if they convict Trump. However, most reasonable people in this country would not convict him in this case. Therefore, if they convict him it will only serve to further his point that he's being politically persecuted, and more people will empathize with him. If they actually put him in jail, it will absolutely guarantee his re-election.

These leftists are so filled with blind hatred for Trump they do not see that their true motivations are revealed the more ridiculous their efforts against him become. They are helping him and don't see it.

I do hope you are right but watching MSM (CBS nightly news this evening) Trump looks bad. Very bad. Now more coming from the Arizona crap. Many of us can see that it is political persecution. Those that are on the fence, I fear, will shy away from Trump. An they are the ones who decide the elections.

 

[Patriot]

I do hope you are right but watching MSM (CBS nightly news this evening) Trump looks bad. Very bad. Now more coming from the Arizona crap. Many of us can see that it is political persecution. Those that are on the fence, I fear, will shy away from Trump. An they are the ones who decide the elections.

I would agree with you except for this particular case. It is so blatantly overreach, so blatantly political, so blatantly searching for a crime to pin on Trump where none exists, that it is transparent to everyone. The political persecution of Trump is revealed by this Bragg indictment. Many people who were previously on the fence, and who were hearing Trump say again and again that all of these prosecution attempts against him were politically motivated and that they had no real merit, are now seeing that what he was saying is true. He IS being politically persecuted using left wing lawfare. This IS a strategy by Joe Biden and his surrogates to impugn Trump and keep him off the campaign trail. They are seeing it now, and that is also changing the way they look at the other cases that have been brought against him. Many are changing their minds in FAVOR of Trump because of it. The left has overplayed its hand. If it had been only one or two cases focusing on the more believable accusations, then maybe more people would believe that they had merit. But this is too much. This has tipped the scales in Trump's favor, and the polls are reflecting it.

 

[FrancSevin]

I would not be surprised if they convict Trump. However, most reasonable people in this country would not convict him in this case. Therefore, if they convict him it will only serve to further his point that he's being politically persecuted, and more people will empathize with him. If they actually put him in jail, it will absolutely guarantee his re-election.

These leftists are so filled with blind hatred for Trump they do not see that their true motivations are revealed the more ridiculous their efforts against him become. They are helping him and don't see it.

No doubt this hatred is real However, it began before he was elected the first time.

Anyone know why Trump is so hated.

 

[Melensdad]

No doubt this hatred is real However, it began before he was elected the first time.

Anyone know why Trump is so hated.

Because he stopped being a Democrat.

For the media that is enough.

Look at John McCain, Mitt Romney, or current Speak Mike Johnson . . . all are enemies of the media/Democrats until they are useful. Then they are friends. Until they are not. Then they are enemies.

Donald Trump was never their enemy until he said he'd run as a Republican.

 

[FrancSevin]

Because he stopped being a Democrat.

For the media that is enough.

Look at John McCain, Mitt Romney, or current Speak Mike Johnson . . . all are enemies of the media/Democrats until they are useful. Then they are friends. Until they are not. Then they are enemies.

Donald Trump was never their enemy until he said he'd run as a Republican.

Yep! Just wanted it said out loud to remind everyone that this is the Democratic Party and how they work for America.

 

[Melensdad]

I would also suggest that the US Supreme Court is going to DELAY most/all of the cases against President Trump.

I believe he will receive LIMITED IMMUNITY and that will cause the lower courts to reassess the charges against him, push off the legally weak and politically motivated cases until AFTER the election, at which point they could be pushed off until after his term expires should he win, by which point he could grant himself a preemptive pardon.

 

[tommu56]

Because he stopped being a Democrat.

For the media that is enough.

Look at John McCain, Mitt Romney, or current Speak Mike Johnson . . . all are enemies of the media/Democrats until they are useful. Then they are friends. Until they are not. Then they are enemies.

Donald Trump was never their enemy until he said he'd run as a Republican.

So if Trump picked Tulsi Gabbard (nor my most favorite pick) for Vice President they would double down to get both of them???

 

[Melensdad]

So if Trump picked Tulsi Gabbard (nor my most favorite pick) for Vice President they would double down to get both of them???

YES

Gabbard is already an outcast from the intolerant party.

Look at what the Democrats are doing to RFK

 

[Patriot]

So if Trump picked Tulsi Gabbard (nor my most favorite pick) for Vice President they would double down to get both of them???

You can bet that the minute Trump names a running mate there will be about a hundred stories run by the leftist media debating whether the running mate is a racist or simply the anti-Christ incarnate.

 

[XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq]

Anyone know why Trump is so hated.

Uhhhhh .... maybe because he's an arrogant ass hat. But so is Biden. Both are steaming piles of shit.

 

[FrancSevin]

Uhhhhh .... maybe because he's an arrogant ass hat. But so is Biden. Both are steaming piles of shit.

He is a self made man of success. And has been quite generous with his good fortune.

Arrogance? Maybe. But, unlike Biden's 50 year arrogant approach to governing, THE Donald earned the right to be so.

Besides, true malicious arrogance in manifested daily by his opposition who abuse the law to persecute him. For what?

Certainly not for the good of our country.
No,
They fear Trump's ability to expose them.

 

[pirate_girl]

Look at what the Democrats are doing to RFK

Including his own family.

 

[Melensdad]

Including his own family.

Because too many "Democrats" are so driven by ideology and hatred that they will sacrifice their own.

 

[pirate_girl]

Because too many "Democrats" are so driven by ideology and hatred that they will sacrifice their own.

And now Trump is calling RFK a "Democrat plant"..
Which I think is rubbish.

 

[Melensdad]

And now Trump is calling RFK a "Democrat plant"..
Which I think is rubbish.

Polls are now showing that RFK is going to hurt BOTH Trump and Biden.

RFK is not actually gaining any ground, he is still just a 'spoiler' but the question is who will he spoil the election for?

So expect BOTH sides to now attack him.

His policies are clearly pretty mainstream Democrat policies on most issues. It would always be expected that the GOP side would attack him, and rightly so, for his far left social and economic leanings. He has a long history of being a leftist on many issues, so that is easy. He also takes some Libertarian positions, like on mandates for vaccines, currency, etc.

 

[Melensdad]

And now Trump is calling RFK a "Democrat plant"..
Which I think is rubbish.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. a political 'Trojan horse': McLaughlin

"For some reason the Biden people see him as a threat and they want to try to portray him as being like Trump somehow and he's not," McLaughlin said.

justthenews.com

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. a political 'Trojan horse': McLaughlin​

Prominent pollster and strategic consultant John McLaughlin this week referred to Democrat-turned-Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as a "Trojan horse" in the political sphere.​

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"He's got a long career as a left-winger and the RFK fund or foundation... whatever they have... his wife still on the board and Obama's an advisor," McLaughlin said on the "John Solomon Reports" podcast. "They've got all these left wing positions, and they're trying to portray him as this Maverick who's right of center. He's a Trojan horse. He's a Trojan horse and now they're trying to say he's taking from Trump. He's not."​

 

[pirate_girl]

And now RFK is challenging Trump to debate.

RFK Jr. challenges Trump to debate after 'Democrat plant' accusation | Fox News

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. responded to former President Trump's accusation that he's a "Democrat plant," challenging the presumptive GOP nominee to a debate.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Patriot]

Polls are now showing that RFK is going to hurt BOTH Trump and Biden.

RFK is not actually gaining any ground, he is still just a 'spoiler' but the question is who will he spoil the election for?

So expect BOTH sides to now attack him.

His policies are clearly pretty mainstream Democrat policies on most issues. It would always be expected that the GOP side would attack him, and rightly so, for his far left social and economic leanings. He has a long history of being a leftist on many issues, so that is easy. He also takes some Libertarian positions, like on mandates for vaccines, currency, etc.

RCP average of polls consistently show that RFK Jr hurts Biden more than Trump. With him in the race, Trump's lead over Biden increases.

 

[Melensdad]

RCP average of polls consistently show that RFK Jr hurts Biden more than Trump. With him in the race, Trump's lead over Biden increases.

Yes but those are a trailing average.

RFK Jr is now showing more of his liberal bent. Depending upon how the Independent voters split on those issues we will see if he continues to erode support from who and by how much.

 

[Melensdad]

From far left SALON . . .

RFK is openly gunning for Trump voters now

Kennedy wants more marks for his anti-vaccination grift — he'll find way more of them by marketing to MAGA

www.salon.com

RFK is now openly gunning for Trump voters — and Republicans are starting to worry​

Kennedy wants more marks for his anti-vaccination grift — he'll find way more of them by marketing to MAGA​

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"The Wuhan Cover-Up" blares the subject line of a recent presidential campaign email. Inside, it's all impenetrable conspiracy theory language that reads more like a QAnon post than a normal political fundraiser:​

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Why wasn’t Dr. Anthony Fauci charged with a crime, when he lied under oath about his relationships with Peter Daszak and Ralph Baric in order to cover-up Wuhan Coronavirus research? Apparently, lying under oath is only a crime when it contradicts established narratives.​

Zombie COVID-19 conspiracy theories? False and defamatory accusations? QAnon-style rhetoric designed to overwhelm and bamboozle the reader? These abusive tactics are all the red flags of MAGA communication. To be certain, fundraising emails across the partisan spectrum can be alarmist and hyperbolic, but accusing innocent people of crimes and spreading lies about deadly diseases are lines most candidates don't cross. The exception, of course, is Donald Trump and his imitators, like Arizona Republican Kari Lake, who's now running for Senate after losing the gubernatorial race in 2022. But outside of the MAGA universe, such tactics are frowned upon for two reasons. One, it's downright evil. Two, it wouldn't work on voters who are outside of the MAGA bubble, as normal people tend to be turned off by slander and overt disinformation. ​

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But curiously this email did not come from Trump or Lake or any other figures associated with the ethics-free world of MAGA campaigning. It came, readers may not be surprised to learn, from the campaign of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an independent presidential candidate. The conventional wisdom in Washington has long been that Kennedy is running a spoiler campaign against President Joe Biden, trying to siphon off enough Democratic votes that Donald Trump wins the election. After all, Kennedy used to be a Democrat and his name is so famous his family had to hold a presser disavowing his candidacy. ​

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This email, however, seems squarely aimed at would-be Trump voters, the only people so soaked in pandemic paranoia and conspiracy theories that any of this would even make sense to them. It's a weird choice for someone trying to undermine Biden's chances! It makes sense, however, if we assume that Kennedy's main priority with his fake run for president is not to spoil the race, but to draw attention and recruit new marks for his longstanding anti-vaccination grift. If you're looking for gullible people who will give you money to lie to them, you will be far more successful appealing to Trump voters than Biden voters. . .

STORY CONTINUES AT LINK ABOVE​

 

[Melensdad]

More proof that RJF Jr is simply a different flavor of liberal Democrat, or in beer terms, he is "Biden Lite"

He offered up a "NO SPOILER" option to Biden.

Whichever one is leading in October, in a national poll 2 way race between Biden v Trump or Kennedy v Trump, the other one will drop out of the race. Of course, Biden has ignored the offer. But only a confirmed liberal would make such an offer, and for Kennedy it assures him that the House & Senate Democrats would be supporting him. No more proof needed. He's not different, he is just more of the same.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/05/01/robert_f_kennedy_offers_biden_no_spoiler_pledge_to_drop_out_to_avoid_trump_victory.html

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1785730637703303204

 

[Melensdad]

If you watch the video, the real sales pitch is at the end.

"If you don't want Trump to win . . . "

The final take away is anti-Trump not pro-Kennedy. Negative politics is back.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1785732046926852306

 

[FrancSevin]

If you watch the video, the real sales pitch is at the end.

"If you don't want Trump to win . . . "

The final take away is anti-Trump not pro-Kennedy. Negative politics is back.

President Biden cannot statistically win this election. Our campaign’s Director of Content, Jonathan Hiller, explains why.

Statistically, Joe Biden could not have won the last election. Yet he currently sits in the White House.

Jus' sayin.