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Zelensky looks to "lock in" 10 year Ukraine War Funding Agreement

Melensdad

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There seems to be an ongoing battle going on in several areas of the globe.

NATO and the EU nations are looking to Biden to create "Trump proof" agreements.

In Washington various regulatory agencies, staffed with un-elected government works, are looking to create work rules that will prevent Trump for shrinking the agencies.

And in Ukraine, it appears that Biden & Zelensky are colluding to create a 10 year war funding mechanism that will lock in future Presidents and put our nation on a constant adversary path with Russia, further driving a Russia-China-Iran power axis.



Biden Looks To Prevent Future President From Ending Ukraine War With 10-Year Agreement

Soon on the heels of President Biden last week signing into law a $61 billion aid package for Ukraine's defense, President Volodymyr Zelensky on Sunday indicated that he's working with Washington on a bilateral security agreement which would last ten years.
"We are already working on a specific text," Zelensky said in his nightly video address. "Our goal is to make this agreement the strongest of all."
"We are discussing the specific foundations of our security and cooperation. We are also working on fixing specific levels of support for this year and the next 10 years."
He indicated it will likely include agreements on long-term support centering on military hardware and joint arms production, as well as continuing reconstruction aid. "The agreement should be truly exemplary and reflect the strength of American leadership," Zelensky added.
But ultimately a key purpose in locking such a long-term deal in would be to keep it immune from potential interference by a future Trump administration.
And from the WALL STREET JOURNAL

The goal is to make sure Ukraine will be strong enough in the future to deter Russia from attacking it again. More immediately, Ukraine’s Western allies hope to discourage the Kremlin from thinking it can wait out the Biden administration for a potentially more sympathetic successor in the White House.
Western officials are looking for ways to lock in pledges of support and limit future governments’ abilities to backtrack, amid fears in European capitals that Donald Trump, if he recaptures the White House, would seek to scale back aid.
 
To quote my favorite TV General, Sherman "T" Potter,
"Bull-feathers!"

Constitutionally, Only the Congress whom directly represents "we the people" can authorize and declare war or authorize spending for same. So why do we need this?

These folks are so adamite about clamping down on Donald Trump because they know he may well win and will do the right thing. Which we can certainly presume will be because they want to do the wrong thing.

Ukraine is for some, a money machine they do not want to be shut down.
 
So we lock in a 10 year military aid deal to support the war.

What happens if the war ends?

Or, if it continues, what incentive does Ukraine have to negotiate a peace?

What if Russia takes over Kiev?

Seems like we are just institutionalizing graft and corruption. Ukraine is known as one of the most corrupt nations in the world. Everyone is on the take, everyone demands a piece of the pie. Rumors are that Zelensky has skimmed off something like $400,000,000.00 since the US started sending aid.
 
Let us just say it out loud.

Ukraine Aid is not about freedom.

It is about keeping a promise to protect and defend the nation if they gave up control of their nuclear weapons. That promise has been abused to create a money machine at the cost of human lives.

Question, in good conscience, should the USA continue with the charade, much less guarantee the corrupt cash flow for ten more years.?
 
Rumors , Russian disinformation constantly bombarding the west . Russia ,a state basically run as a Mafia fiefdom ,it's leader rewriting history to his own warped version during interviews. One none Rumor is the plain fact that Russia , China , Iran are adversaries of the west , you can add North Korea , even the Chinese can't control them .
They all view the West as weak and indecisive , who cower when the 3rd world war rhetoric heats up . Unless the west shows resolve to stand up to these countries , they won't stop , strength is all they understand.
 
Rumors , Russian disinformation constantly bombarding the west . Russia ,a state basically run as a Mafia fiefdom ,it's leader rewriting history to his own warped version during interviews. One none Rumor is the plain fact that Russia , China , Iran are adversaries of the west , you can add North Korea , even the Chinese can't control them .
They all view the West as weak and indecisive , who cower when the 3rd world war rhetoric heats up . Unless the west shows resolve to stand up to these countries , they won't stop , strength is all they understand.
Funny but wasn't it just a few years ago we were expanding mutually beneficial trade with Russia? And just a few years ago Russia and the United states were working cooperatively. The international space station. Ice Breakers in the north seas. Oil development and Oil/Gas pipelines were all joint or cooperative efforts. Even timber trade.

Sure Putin is a thug. We knew that, but he was/is someone who can be reasoned with. But now he is our enemy because we decided to push him into a corner by breaking our word. We said we would not push an alliance with Ukraine. We said we would not consider Ukraine for NATO. We lied. Nearly 1 million people (total of both sides) have died. Ukraine cannot win. While Russia may be run like a Mafia fiefdom, so is Ukraine.

Why is one corrupt government worse than the other?

Zelensky of Ukraine has somehow managed to build his wealth during the war to the tune of $400,000.000.00 of our US dollars. He is the corrupt leader of a corrupt nation and we are enriching him with our tax dollars.

Our foreign policy got Ukraine attacked. Our tax dollars now are fighting a proxy war with Russia. And our current President wants to ensure that no future President can change his policies or "aid" package to fund this war. So how is our current President less corrupt???
 
Yes it's amazing how times change , Europe's thirst for cheap Russian natural gas , a dependency that didn't work out in the long run. Trying to bring Russia into the fold as a modern stable democratic country onto the world stage , now a rogue country , invading it's neighbors.
Governments change in countries , and with that their desire for security , hence wanting to join NATO as the best solution when your neighbor happens to be Russia. As we've seen any agreement signed with Russia in the past is worthless on paper as Putin is determined to resurrect the Soviet Union , Ukraine being his current conquest.
The distinction I make between these two governments , who invaded who ? What country in this has committed thousands of documented war crimes , from murder , rape , torture, abduction of children , bombing of civilians.
Zelensky was a rich man before he entered politics , has any politician in high office became poorer while in power , I doubt it . A Rumor of 400 million in his bank accounts , I have no idea , but it makes a good spin for the Russian bots.
As for American aid money we know the majority goes toward the defence industry to replace old stock being sent to Ukraine and other allies the U.S supports.
As for a current President being able to tie the hands of a future President's decision on foreign policy , doubt it. I defer to John Bolton's statement that "Neither man is fit to be President " in the upcoming election.
 
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