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Wolves are good for you....
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Thanks...Interesting indeed.
Regards, Kirk
Regards, Kirk
mtntopper
Back On Track
This appears to be aimed at justification for introducing wolves to Yellowstone Park again? Who is responsible for the video and what is their motive? I have to question the stated facts of tree growth and river channel changes.
Mother nature via winter snow/water runoff and storms does much more to change the channels than the elk, deer and bison movements within the park boundaries. Maybe the past few dry years with less runoff is the actual result for less river channel changes? Yes you will see more vultures and predatory birds as they have a feeding frenzy available from the kills of the wolves who consume very little of the meat from the kills. The wolves in the park are not native to the park area but are Canadian grey wolves that have a thirst for blood and often do not even eat their kill.
Of course you will see changes when the Elk herds are reduced by 1/2 or more of prior numbers. Deer, moose and other game animals are in decline throughout Yellowstone Park as the wolves take over. The wolves have no natural enemies except for man who cannot hunt them in the Park. They will totally decimate many other species of animals.
The wolf population numbers will continue to increase and spread out of the park in search of easy prey. As the number of wolves and packs grow they move out of the National Park on to private lands in surrounding states that have cattle, sheep and other domestic livestock. They continue to kill outside the park and are still protected by the federal government. The states surrounding Yellowstone are not consulted or allowed very little input on the wolf management/control issues outside the park boundaries. They must adhere to federal rules that come from Washington DC. We can kill very limited numbers but the population growth far exceeds the death rate at current levels. We should ship the wolves that escape the park to New York and Washington DC and let them decide how great the wolf is in their backyards.
The minuses far out number the positives in the wolf controversy in the western US.
Mother nature via winter snow/water runoff and storms does much more to change the channels than the elk, deer and bison movements within the park boundaries. Maybe the past few dry years with less runoff is the actual result for less river channel changes? Yes you will see more vultures and predatory birds as they have a feeding frenzy available from the kills of the wolves who consume very little of the meat from the kills. The wolves in the park are not native to the park area but are Canadian grey wolves that have a thirst for blood and often do not even eat their kill.
Of course you will see changes when the Elk herds are reduced by 1/2 or more of prior numbers. Deer, moose and other game animals are in decline throughout Yellowstone Park as the wolves take over. The wolves have no natural enemies except for man who cannot hunt them in the Park. They will totally decimate many other species of animals.
The wolf population numbers will continue to increase and spread out of the park in search of easy prey. As the number of wolves and packs grow they move out of the National Park on to private lands in surrounding states that have cattle, sheep and other domestic livestock. They continue to kill outside the park and are still protected by the federal government. The states surrounding Yellowstone are not consulted or allowed very little input on the wolf management/control issues outside the park boundaries. They must adhere to federal rules that come from Washington DC. We can kill very limited numbers but the population growth far exceeds the death rate at current levels. We should ship the wolves that escape the park to New York and Washington DC and let them decide how great the wolf is in their backyards.
The minuses far out number the positives in the wolf controversy in the western US.
mtntopper
Back On Track
They are elk and are a preferred kill for the wolf especially the newborn calves in the early spring when they cannot escape the teeth of the wolf packs that pursue them non stop as they are just an easy kill being weak from the winter and calving time.
Alaska Snow Cat
Member
I had to go wash the crap out of my ears after listing to that BS!
Now I happen to like wolves and I have no problem with the few that roam around the woods where I live nor do I have a problem with the killing of some either. See no need to wipe them out though. However I do have a problem with some foreign sounding dude hyping up a story about deers that are actually elk. There could be a kernel of truth to his story but I doubt it is the whole truth and in fact has glaring untrue statements throughout. BTW my wife and I went through Yellowstone about 4 years ago and it looked almost exactly the same as when I was there as a kid 40 years ago. A lot more dead trees from forest fires was about the biggest change visually.
Now I happen to like wolves and I have no problem with the few that roam around the woods where I live nor do I have a problem with the killing of some either. See no need to wipe them out though. However I do have a problem with some foreign sounding dude hyping up a story about deers that are actually elk. There could be a kernel of truth to his story but I doubt it is the whole truth and in fact has glaring untrue statements throughout. BTW my wife and I went through Yellowstone about 4 years ago and it looked almost exactly the same as when I was there as a kid 40 years ago. A lot more dead trees from forest fires was about the biggest change visually.
Snowtrac Nome
member formerly known as dds
I don't know about that bs a buddy of mine made burger out of some wolves. he fed them to some friends they didn't know they ate it and said it was some good burger. I guess it is good for you just in a way other than the liberal tree hugger would have you think.
Danang Sailor
nullius in verba
I don't hug trees but am truly happy to see the wolves coming back. Yes, they can be devastating to crop animals but as the
video notes they are really good for the balance of nature. If they become a problem they should be thinned, but not
eradicated as was done before. [By the way, wapiti (elk) are indeed members of the Cervidae family and are called 'deer' in
many parts of the world.]
Wolves are apex predators, with few natural enemies in the wild ...other than Man. Each needs to play their proper
role in the ecosystem. In my totally biased opinion, wolves if kept in healthy numbers - which is where we come in - are as
necessary to the health of the wild as sun and rain.
[BTW, in my lifetime I've both lived next to and hunted wolves that were preying on domestic animals, which has
given me a pretty good picture of both their good and bad points. I still say we need them.]
video notes they are really good for the balance of nature. If they become a problem they should be thinned, but not
eradicated as was done before. [By the way, wapiti (elk) are indeed members of the Cervidae family and are called 'deer' in
many parts of the world.]
Wolves are apex predators, with few natural enemies in the wild ...other than Man. Each needs to play their proper
role in the ecosystem. In my totally biased opinion, wolves if kept in healthy numbers - which is where we come in - are as
necessary to the health of the wild as sun and rain.
[BTW, in my lifetime I've both lived next to and hunted wolves that were preying on domestic animals, which has
given me a pretty good picture of both their good and bad points. I still say we need them.]
