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The EGG.

elsmitro

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The standard chicken egg: At first it seems as simple as the subject line, but if you give it any thought it can stir the imagination to the conception of time itself. No wonder this seeming simple edible suffers from so many misconceptions. How many of you have eaten ‘farm fresh’ eggs? Eggs that were produced by birds that got to roam to their hearts content in grassy fields, and eat as they pleased. Eggs produced by birds that got to live as chickens, instead of industrial disposables. Brown, blue, pink, or white, whatever the color of the shell, if the birds were living as they were intended you will find large dark colored yokes inside, that tastes much richer than the eggs produced by that birds indentured cousin.
I am going to attempt to clear up what I think the majority may not understand about ‘the egg’.

1. Eggs that have a blood spot on the yolk are safe for consumption. These do not indicate a fertilized egg, are not harmful, and are caused by the rupture of a blood vessel during formation of the egg.
2. What’s the gross white stringy stuff on my egg? These strands are the chalazae, which anchor the yolk in the center of the thick white. They are not imperfections or beginning embryos. The more prominent the chalazae, the fresher the egg.
3. The ‘Free Range’ myth: Most commercial "free-range" egg farm hens are crowded inside windowless sheds with little more than a single, narrow exit leading to an enclosure, too small to accommodate all of the birds at once. If they are fortunate enough to make it ‘outside’ during the 1-2 years they are allowed to live, they find no grass, not even dirt or bugs. This is all that’s required to call them ‘free range’. The term is so abused that most people that have true free-range birds are replacing the term ‘free range’ with ‘grass fed’ or ‘pastured poultry’.
4. Nutrition: True free-range chickens consume large amounts of grass, clover, weeds, seeds, and insects, in addition to grain. It is precisely this natural and diverse diet that produces nutrient rich pastured poultry eggs. I'm sure everyone here has heard the fraze "garbage in, garbage out"; of course the opposite is also just as true. Pastured poultry eggs contain about half as much cholesterol, are twice as rich in Vitamin E, up to six times richer in beta carotene and a whopping four times^ higher in essential omega-3 fatty acids! If they can naturally produce eggs this healthy imagine how much healthier and happier the birds themselves are.

OK, I guess I’m done for now, hope this helps someone (and a bird or 2) out!
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Okay, Here's the question, though:

The wife wants to raise chickens for meat and eggs.
  1. What is the workload to achieve this?
  2. Is it worth the effort?
  3. How much area / chicken is needed? (additional feed, etc.)
  4. Will they coup naturally or do they need to be hearded up every evening?
  5. Should they be fenced in or free to raom about?
  6. What am I missing in this whole idea?
 
Okay, here's my attempt at answers:

The wife wants to raise chickens for meat and eggs.
Does she have what it takes to cull them once she has raised them? You will never have a better tasting bird than one that is pasture raised. Believe it or not you can start getting breed specific when you decide what you really want them for. You may want to find a good “dual purpose” breed if you don’t want that much detail.

What is the workload to achieve this?
Keeping their area clean isn’t that much trouble if you keep after it. Every aspect of it can get complicated but it’s best to not over think it, just keep things simple, they won’t mind.

Is it worth the effort?
? Keeping a small home flock isn’t going to save you any $ but it’s a fun hobby.

How much area / chicken is needed? (Additional feed, etc.)
I only have about 10 chickens and they don’t ‘normally’ wander more than an acre. In the winter you’re pretty much their only hope… In the summer they will still eat all you give them but if you let them run loose they will supplement their nutritional needs with stuff that doesn’t eat them first.

Will they coup naturally or do they need to be herded up every evening?
If you keep them in the coop for a week for 2 at first they will naturally return to it at night. That’s chickens mind you; turkeys and guineas will hang around but will not usually go back to the coop (maybe on top of it).


Should they be fenced in or free to roam about?
What’s your potential predator situation look like? I have been trapping for about 1.5 years, have different types of traps surrounding the parameter of my property and still normally catch suspect critters on a regular basis. Trapping is another fun hobby that has sprung from the bird hobby. Since I think mine are somewhat safe from the land based predators I let them all run loose 24/7. Everyone except the pheasants that is, they are the wildest of my flock and would take to the hills. I rarely have any poultry come into my fenced in back yard; they seem content to wander the field.

What am I missing in this whole idea?
I think that should do you for now…
Well, here is a quote from a previous thread: “I hope I didn’t turn you off to the idea of keeping birds. I just don’t want anyone to think that it’s all fun and games. It is a lot of work to keep healthy, happy birds in a clean, safe environment. But, there are a lot of benefits to it also. Bringing animals into your life and helping them grow and prosper is not only good for them, but will cause them to be more beneficial to you. It would be even more rewarding if you used this opportunity to increase the quality and quantity of some of our more endangered breeds. Check this web site for a list of them:
http://www.albc-usa.org/cpl/wtchlist.html#poultry

Thanks for the questions and Good Luck! :thumb:
 
The standard chicken egg: At first it seems as simple as the subject line, but if you give it any thought it can stir the imagination to the conception of time itself. No wonder this seeming simple edible suffers from so many misconceptions. How many of you have eaten ‘farm fresh’ eggs? Eggs that were produced by birds that got to roam to their hearts content in grassy fields, and eat as they pleased. Eggs produced by birds that got to live as chickens, instead of industrial disposables. Brown, blue, pink, or white, whatever the color of the shell, if the birds were living as they were intended you will find large dark colored yokes inside, that tastes much richer than the eggs produced by that birds indentured cousin.
I am going to attempt to clear up what I think the majority may not understand about ‘the egg’.

1. Eggs that have a blood spot on the yolk are safe for consumption. These do not indicate a fertilized egg, are not harmful, and are caused by the rupture of a blood vessel during formation of the egg.
2. What’s the gross white stringy stuff on my egg? These strands are the chalazae, which anchor the yolk in the center of the thick white. They are not imperfections or beginning embryos. The more prominent the chalazae, the fresher the egg.
3. The ‘Free Range’ myth: Most commercial "free-range" egg farm hens are crowded inside windowless sheds with little more than a single, narrow exit leading to an enclosure, too small to accommodate all of the birds at once. If they are fortunate enough to make it ‘outside’ during the 1-2 years they are allowed to live, they find no grass, not even dirt or bugs. This is all that’s required to call them ‘free range’. The term is so abused that most people that have true free-range birds are replacing the term ‘free range’ with ‘grass fed’ or ‘pastured poultry’.
4. Nutrition: True free-range chickens consume large amounts of grass, clover, weeds, seeds, and insects, in addition to grain. It is precisely this natural and diverse diet that produces nutrient rich pastured poultry eggs. I'm sure everyone here has heard the fraze "garbage in, garbage out"; of course the opposite is also just as true. Pastured poultry eggs contain about half as much cholesterol, are twice as rich in Vitamin E, up to six times richer in beta carotene and a whopping four times^ higher in essential omega-3 fatty acids! If they can naturally produce eggs this healthy imagine how much healthier and happier the birds themselves are.

OK, I guess I’m done for now, hope this helps someone (and a bird or 2) out!
:thumb:

Yep. You're done for now. Hell, your just done. The above post has absolutly no substance. What were you smokin' when you typed it?

We raise free range chickens and sell the eggs to the community. What you said may be true for your local area, but please do not insinuate all areas are as ****ed up as yours.

Normally I'm able to comprehend what you are trying to say...but your above post makes me wonder if I'm as ****ed up as you.

Nope. I'm not.

Moderators - please feel free to amend my post as you see fit.

Thanks.

RB
 
Yep. You're done for now. Hell, your just done. The above post has absolutly no substance. What were you smokin' when you typed it?

We raise free range chickens and sell the eggs to the community. What you said may be true for your local area, but please do not insinuate all areas are as ****ed up as yours.

Normally I'm able to comprehend what you are trying to say...but your above post makes me wonder if I'm as ****ed up as you.

Nope. I'm not.

Moderators - please feel free to amend my post as you see fit.

Thanks.

RB

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Wow, talk about "absolutly no substance"... What do you mean "insinuate all areas are as ****ed up as yours"? There is nothing wrong with my area.
"wonder if I'm as ****ed up as you." What the hell is that all about?
Why are you acting like such a jerk? Did you not like me defining my idea of TRUE "free range"?
I admit that I am “just” a hobby farmer; I don’t do this stuff for a living. But, you have to admit that you have fooled the public into thinking that “free range” means exactly what I have described / defined as "Pastured Poultry".
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Pastured Poultry from Mother Earth News and a Google Search
 
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But, you have to admit that you have fooled the public into thinking that “free range” means exactly what I have described / defined.

No - I don't have to admit that.
Free Range does not mean "confined" - free range means the chickens can roam about freely during the day, then return to the coup (or whatever the building is called locally) to roost and be safe at night.
There are at least a dozen operations within a 10 mile radius of me that, though they are small, they still make their living selling eggs from free range chickens. There are also at least 3 larger operations (more than 5 thousand chickens) - they do not advertise their eggs as free range...and if they tried the rest of us would address it, first in the media, then with Dept. of Agriculture.
 
No - I don't have to admit that.
Free Range does not mean "confined" - free range means the chickens can roam about freely during the day, then return to the coup (or whatever the building is called locally) to roost and be safe at night.
There are at least a dozen operations within a 10 mile radius of me that, though they are small, they still make their living selling eggs from free range chickens. There are also at least 3 larger operations (more than 5 thousand chickens) - they do not advertise their eggs as free range...and if they tried the rest of us would address it, first in the media, then with Dept. of Agriculture.


Then perhaps you transcribe to my definition of “free range”. What exactly is your problem? Are you DRUNK?
I cannot believe I did my best to talk about something I enjoy in a my normal pleasant manner and you inexplicably attack me!
 
Then perhaps you transcribe to my definition of “free range”. What exactly is your problem? Are you DRUNK?
I cannot believe I did my best to talk about something I enjoy in a my normal pleasant manner and you inexplicably attack me!

Maybe you should commit suicide - you wouldn't want to be taken prisoner now, would ya?
 
Maybe you should commit suicide - you wouldn't want to be taken prisoner now, would ya?

Again, WOW...
You have still not offered any explanation for your current position; in other words, WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM?
I know, you were working on your own EGG thread and I beat you to it. And, mine is much clearer and more precise than yours could have ever been. I’m so glad I finally figured it out. I can share the credit for it with you if it will make you feel better! You see, I’m the understanding, companionate type, and I don’t like taking credit for stuff for fear of having the spotlight cast on little ol me. :kiss: :thankyou2 :stupid:
 
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