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Successfully changed front idler wheel on 1976 Thiokol snowcat

SOS RANCH

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I figured it out as follows:

There was no option but to do the deed with the hinge on the idler wheel. The bolt that holds this together enter from the outside edges, not the inside. This means that the inner belt hinge connecting bolt (I will call it the Pin) cannot be removed in any other position than the front wheel or the rear sprocket as the frame prohibits removal due to lack of room and if removed over the front idler wheel, there is no way to insert the pin in any other way due to interference from the idler wheel itself. Thus, no option but removal and replacement over the idler wheel.

I purchased two track jacks from SnowCat Service. Not cheap but they are massive and very well built. Two is way better than one. In the method shown in the photos, it only took about an hr to do this and it was really quite simple.

In short, the jacks were placed on the grouser just above the hinge and on the second one below the hinge. They were tightened until I saw the hinge move which indicated a degree of looseness. The nuts were taken off and the pins removed, first with a hammer and rod to tap so the top of the pin was exposed sufficiently to put a vise grip loosely in place and then this was tapped to remove the pin. First one side then the other.

Once the pins were removed the lower part of the track was laid on the ground and the upper part was elevated with sticks to allow access for wheel removal. The grease fitting on the old wheel was pumped with grease until the outer cap released and was removed. The nut was exposed, the cotter pin removed and the nut was removed with only finger pressure, the flat washer and the bearing was removed and then the wheel slid off easily.

The new wheel and inner bearing were greased and placed on the spindle, the new outer bearing was greased and placed on the spindle with the flat washer to follow. Then the nut was placed and tightened until the wheel and bearings were against the stop on the spindle and then the nut was reversed part of a turn so it did not fit tightly against the washer and the cotter pin was placed to hold the castle nut in place. Then I put grease in the outer cup and tapped it into place.

The track jacks were positioned as before and tightened until the hinge parts were adapted properly and the pins placed, nuts tightened and the job was done.

This also tightened the track nicely as the original idler wheels are old and worn. I did measure the old and new from the inside center to the outer edge and they are equal except for the wear on the old ones.

I am going to do the other side today. Actually this was very easy to do.

Maybe this will help others if they need to do this on their cat.
 

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Check out the hammer in the photos. That is a Chouinard rock climbing hammer I bought in 1966. Long story but I won't go there.... but it is one of the last things I have from my climbing days. I use it whenever I am doing something fun ;o) My son has claimed it after I am finished with life on earth. It was very well built and has lasted all these many years.....
 
Prettt cool! My climbing days were mostly late 60's through mid to late 70's before I got too absorbed in the work routine. For me, best described as back country free mountaineering in the Cascades. Way before GPS and cell phones, just a compas and topo map in hand, ridge running from 6500' to 8500' in search of alpine lakes with no trails into them. Nothing but an ice axe to cross steep snow chutes as needed. And I still have my gear, can't seem to part with it. Memories of me and my brother.
 
Nice co-pilot you have there. We have a red merle Aussie. Ours is 7(?) years old and I'm waiting for him to grow out of his puppy has too much energy phase :yum:
 
That is Merley. He is named after my good pal Merle Haggard. Yes, Merle and I spent a lot of time together, long story that I won't get into but I said to Merle "I named my dog after you." He said "Really?" I said "yeah... that way I can say "Hey Merle !! Don't eat that cat shit !!!" Merle laughed and said "All dogs eat cat shit." I said "I wonder why that is." He said "Must be the minerals...." LOL

We also have a red merle female. She is a HOOT !! These Aussies are so much fun and so smart. Although Molly, the female, is sometimes a Snarky Bitch, ... haha. Love 'em.

BT: My days on the ropes and pins were also in the late 60's but I bailed on the high exposure in 72 when I got in places where I decided it was not fun anymore. It became scary and thus I knew I had to quit. But rather than tell my friends that I said I was tired of banging up my fingers and as a guitar player, I decided to quit... but the real reason was it became scary. ;o) I kept with the mountains though, not the highest ones, but a bunch of 14s in Colorado and then in the Sawtooths. Went to Aspen in Christmas time with a climbing buddy and we were planning to be the first to ascend the Mt. of the Holy Cross in Jan. '68 but it was snowing so hard we decided to hang in Aspen. And I decided to move there 'cuz Aspen in '68 was a real good time. Dang, it sure was.
 
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