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RV Sales to be Banned in 6 States starting Jan 2025

Melensdad

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California passed a law that requires vehicles over 8500# GVW to be ZERO Emissions vehicles.

Most motorhomes will not meet that emission standard by the deadline in 2025.

Washington, Oregon, Massachusetts, New York and New Jersey adopted the California standard and therefore will follow the California emissions laws.

The Daily Caller is running the story and has attempted to reach out California for further explanation. Full Story at the Daily Caller >>> https://dailycaller.com/2024/11/12/...rral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home

RV Sales To Be Banned Across Six States As California Climate Rules Take Effect

Ireland OwensNovember 12, 2024 5:41 PM ET
Diesel motorhome sales are set to be halted in several states at the start of next year due to a new climate rule from California being enacted, according to RVtravel.
Motorhome sales are being prevented in California, Washington, Oregon, New York, Massachusetts and New Jersey if the vehicles do not meet certain emission requirements based on regulations from the California Air Resources Board (CARB), according to RVtravel. CARB amended its Advanced Clean Truck regulations on Oct. 24, which require all vehicles over 8,500 pounds to produce zero emissions.
Motorhome owners in the six states will not be allowed to register a recreational vehicle (RV) that is not in compliance with the climate regulation, according to RVtravel.
 
More BS from California.

Just what we need.

Screw'em
No shit.

But several states are adopting California "CARB" mandates. So what happens in California does not necessarily stay in the state of crazies and nuts.

It is a very beautiful state, ruined by people and their policies. Highest rates of poverty. Among the worst in public ed-u-ma-ka-shun. Highest gasoline prices. Surplus wind/solar DAYTIME energy production but DEFICIT nighttime energy production. Horrific property crime rates for shoplifting, car thefts, etc . . . but a voter revolt that recalled SOROS funded soft on crime prosecutors.

California's CARB mandates are not limited to California.

The RV industry will still exist, but it will exist outside of the 6 effective states that follow the CA "CARB" mandates.

It will be interesting to see what the consumers do in response to these rules. Will they register new vehicles out of state? Will they simply buy used vehicles to avoid the rule? Will they go on a buying spree now to avoid the future problem? Do they even know what is about to happen?
 
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Motorhome owners in the six states will not be allowed to register a recreational vehicle (RV) that is not in compliance with the climate regulation, according to RVtravel.

From the wording here I wonder if buying used is even an option. Or even renewing your license / registration each year would not be allowed for any current RV

And not just anyone can register a vehicle in another state. You have to be a resident for at least 6 months out of the year. Maybe the LLC idea could work otherwise I'm at a loss. .

This law as it reads seems truly insane. Yet 5 states besides CA jumped onto this band wagon.
 
Motorhome owners in the six states will not be allowed to register a recreational vehicle (RV) that is not in compliance with the climate regulation, according to RVtravel.

From the wording here I wonder if buying used is even an option. Or even renewing your license / registration each year would not be allowed for any current RV

And not just anyone can register a vehicle in another state. You have to be a resident for at least 6 months out of the year. Maybe the LLC idea could work otherwise I'm at a loss. .

This law as it reads seems truly insane. Yet 5 states besides CA jumped onto this band wagon.
montana company that does it for you for a fee.

 
And not just anyone can register a vehicle in another state. You have to be a resident for at least 6 months out of the year.
Sure you can (at least in FL). I "think" you need a property, but you don't have to be there for any duration.
I wonder if these CARB requirements are why Honda no longer sells lawnmowers in the US.
 
Gotta wonder how much that will cost them in lost sales taxes. And undoubtedly some rv dealers going out of business.
Thank God Trump won and saved most of us from these assholes.
 
Interesting update, if I understand it correctly (and I am very unsure), this may affect all new RV production?










California’s “Ban” On Motorhomes: What You Need To Know
UPDATE 11/20/2024: RV Industry Association Government Affairs staff, along with several of our motorhome manufacturer members, met on Tuesday afternoon (11/19/24) with the California Air Resources Board (CARB) staff overseeing the Advanced Clean Trucks (ACT) regulation. The meeting was requested by CARB to discuss in more detail the RV industry comments submitted as part of the ACT amendments proceeding in October. They also wanted to hear more directly from our members about what they are being told by the chassis manufacturers about why they are unable to deliver products.
CARB staff reviewed the various regulations that are impacting the motorhome industry at present, including the Omnibus Low NOx rule, the ACT, and the Advanced Clean Fleets rule. Following their presentation, a wide-ranging discussion was held with our members. We repeated our belief that an exemption or a delay in implementation from the ACT would be of greatest benefit to allow the industry to continue to provide motorhomes to dealers and customers in the state. Of note, CARB said it does have the authority to create exemptions to the regulation. This is different than what CARB has said on other regulations when they stated that allowable exemptions are set by the law which created the rule, not by CARB.
While no final resolution was attained, all sides agreed to continue talking and another meeting is being arranged in early December. The RV Industry Association will continue to explore all its options to find an equitable solution.

UPDATE 11/18/24: RV Industry Association staff continue to work with CARB, our members, and other stakeholders on this issue. As updates are available, this article will be updated to reflect any developments or any changes to the FAQs. Following additional clarification from CARB, the FAQ regarding a dealer's ability to sell a non-compliant RV to residents outside of California has been updated to note that is possible, provided the customer intends to register the motorhome in a non-ACT state.

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In 2025, California's Advanced Clean Trucks (ACT) regulation, aimed at promoting zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs), will create a near-total “ban” on motorhome sales in the state, as well as in additional states that follow the California Air Resource Board (CARB) regulations. While the regulation does not specifically ban motorhome sales, the ACT regulation mandates manufacturers of medium and heavy-duty vehicles to sell an increasing percentage of ZEVs each year. This has led chassis manufacturers to halt sales of traditional internal combustion engine chassis for motorhomes in California, stemming from the lack of ZEV chassis suitable for motorhomes.
Since 2020, the RV Industry Association has been working with CARB on the ACT regulations through conversations directly with CARB staff as well as written and oral testimony at multiple public hearings. When CARB filed its proposed amendments earlier this year, the RV industry met with CARB staff to discuss the impact on the industry. The Association also submitted comments laying out the the negative impact of the regulation on the motorhome industry.
Unfortunately, CARB did not make any further amendment which would alleviate the problem of motorhome manufacturers being told by chassis manufacturers that they would not be able to supply ICE (internal combustion engine) chassis for sale into California since they could not offset their ZEV deficits by sales of a ZEV motorhome chassis.
Making the matter more complicated, it is not just the ACT that is causing the issue right now; it is the trio of regulations passed in the last 2-3 years: the ACT, along with the Omnibus Low NOx rule and the Advanced Clean Fleets rule. These three rules work together with the goal of gradually transitioning medium- and heavy-duty vehicles to zero emission vehicles (ZEVs) by 2036. We have commented to CARB on each of them, and also on the Small Off-Road Engine regulation which threatens spark-ignition engines on generators. ... STORY CONTINUES AT LINK
 
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