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OHIO: Student opens fire at Ohio high school, 5 injured (1 may be dead)

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Breaking on Drudge, FOX, CNN, etc

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/02/at_least_4_students_hurt_in_sh.html

More to come.

Appears to be a student at the school stood up and started to shoot. He is IN CUSTODY now. He shot 3 boys and 1 girl. All are alive, 3 are in critical condition.

CHARDON, Ohio -- At least four students have been injured in a shooting this morning at Chardon High School.

Multiple reports say that one suspect was arrested and police are searching for at least one other person. The boy who is in custody is being processed at the Geauga County Sheriff's office, according to reports about 9 a.m.

Geauga County Sheriff's spokesman John Hiscox confirmed there had been a shooting in the school, but would give no details shortly after 8 this morning.

A local official confirmed the number of students. He said three boys and a girl were injured. Four ambulances -- from Chardon, Kirtland, Burton and Chesterland -- are waiting at the door of the high school at 8:15 a.m.

TV station WKBN channel 27 in Youngstown quoted a police scanner saying three of the victims were in critical condition and that they would be flown from the WalMart parking lot in the village.

Little information has been made available. Chardon police and sheriff's officials said the school was on lockdown. Parents are crowding just off school grounds.

The shooting happened in the cafeteria, according to a waiting parent, Jessica Bryant, whose freshman daughter, Allison, had seen it and texted her.

Parents were being told at 8:21 that it might not be safe to remain near the school. Maple Elementary school across the street was being evacuated.

Police are blocking streets near the school as they go through the building in search of the shooter. A teacher saw the shooting and chased the gun-wielder, who escaped.
 
Re: OHIO: Student opens fire at Ohio high school, 4 injured

FOX now saying that 2 SHOOTERS are in custody.

Occurred in the school cafeteria.

The boys who did this may not even be students at this particular school.

One boy with a gun chased a boy down the hall.

SOME REPORTS ARE SAYING THE SHOOTER(S) MAY HAVE HAD SPECIFIC TARGETS????
 
Re: OHIO: Student opens fire at Ohio high school, 4 injured

It appears that 1 suspect is in custody. There is now talk that ONLY 1 SHOOTER was involved, instead of 2 shooters.
 
Any idea on what set this loon off yet? I have been watching it from here and all I can say is it is a sad thing to have happen.
 
Damn, not again....

We have supposed laws against bullying. The shooter was bullied, badly from the sounds of it. Where the hell are the teachers?? In Iowa, in a school cafeteria an 8th grader had his leg broken and his jaw broken as well!! How can this stuff happen in school? Is no one looking??

We cann't spank them any more, so what do we do? I like the idea of using camera to spy on the little buggers, but I suppose that would violate some child protection laws some where...

It's rediculous that thisis happening now. Hell when we were kids we all had guns in our cars in the school lot. But no one shot anyone. I think the problem is with scholl administrators who do to little to late for kids being bullied. This really jerks my chain....

Regards, Kirk
 
Damn, not again....

We have supposed laws against bullying. The shooter was bullied, badly from the sounds of it. Where the hell are the teachers?? In Iowa, in a school cafeteria an 8th grader had his leg broken and his jaw broken as well!! How can this stuff happen in school? Is no one looking??

We cann't spank them any more, so what do we do? I like the idea of using camera to spy on the little buggers, but I suppose that would violate some child protection laws some where...

It's rediculous that this is happening now. Hell when we were kids we all had guns in our cars in the school lot. But no one shot anyone. I think the problem is with scholl administrators who do to little to late for kids being bullied. This really jerks my chain....

Regards, Kirk


It has happened in school, as it has always happened in school. I would say it is worse now, or at least it seems so.
So long as morality is subjective,,,,,,it will continue to happen and possibly get more deadly.

Two likely reasons;

More news coverage of the event and less personal responsibility is attributed to the perp for have commited such crimes.

I would hazard that before the week is out, blame will be laid on the school, school staff, other students, the victims and their parents, but not the little bugger that pulled the trigger.
 
Two students are now dead. One was shot in the head, and surgeons are hesitating about doing surgery at this time. My source is my SIL who has a friend who is the parent of one of the victims. Very sad day for everyone, and I can only imagine the apprehension of parents sending their children back to school when it reopens. More details here.

I was in Chardon this morning to pick up materials for a job at Home Depot, and you could not get near the town center due to the HUGE police and Sheriff presence. Home Depot is on the outskirts, but I must have seen 15 police/sheriff vehicles cruising the parking lots and streets, not to mention at least 3 news choppers hovering overhead.
 
Everyone seemed to know the kid who did the shooting had been and always was bullied. Funny how after the fact they seem to be so aware of it....but not till it is too late. Failure to act on the schools part, and they are not the only school either. This has become a national phenomina, and the media just perpetuates it as well with all the coverage it gets. All because some young poor soul is the "target" of the "cool kids" and the school officials look the other way. The kid was a loner because he got his ass handed to himself with regularity. I dont want to justify what he did, but it was a chioce fueled by anger at those he shot. Adults we pay with our tax dollars were supposed to see this sort of bully behavior isn't tolerated, and will be punished. I don't feel our schools are doing this. They are not identifing and punishing bullies effectively. Not to mention the lousy job of educating some are doing as well....

Can you tell I am unsatisfied with pulic schools for the most part?? I thought so...

Regards, Kirk
 
From what I have heard, this school does not have metal detectors. Knowing the community the way I do, you wouldn't see a need for metal detectors, but I guess you cannot be careful enough.

I just learned about the bullying, and was surprised that this has been ignored by the school. I'd like to say I'm shocked, but I guess that would be naive of me. I was bullied in high school (I was a skinny kid with glasses), but two of my brothers took care of that "discreetly" behind the grandstands at the football field, and the bully never bothered me again. The message was sent to others who entertained the thought of bullying me that they would be met with a similar fate. I wish this kid had brothers like I have, maybe he wouldn't have chosen this path to vent his anxiety and anger. I wonder how the administrators who took this lightly feel right now, since two students are dead and the others are in the hospital because they chose to not intervene to the fullest. I guess zero tolerance only applies to whatever the administration prioritizes. kind of like politics, huh?
 
I'm looking online for a confirmation, but a post on facebook states the third student who was taken by Life Flight to Cleveland Metro Health Trauma Center has apparently also died. I'll keep checking to find confirmation of this post.
 
I heard it on from a news conference by the police today. He also went to court today which was partially televised.
 
This type of thing happening in our schools is so sickly tragic:hammer:
Was all over the local news here today.

This morning, the ticker started going across the screen stating that a large high school in Lima (very near here) had to be evacuated because of some idiot calling in a bomb threat.

http://www.hometownstations.com/story/17048772/bomb-threat-evacuates-lima-senior

The Lima Police Department has interviewed four people about the a threatening call made about Lima senior. A bomb threat was told to dispatchers at the Allen County Sheriff's Office around 7:50 Wednesday morning.
The message is short.
Just one sentence, "Lima Senior's going to blow at ten o'clock," is said to 911 operators.
But the implications are scary.
"Well, especially with what happened earlier this week in Cleveland it just makes all of us a little nervous about what's going on," said Darnell Collins, Lima Senior parent.
And with no indication that the call was a hoax, students at Lima Senior were placed on lock down and then evacuated to the civic center to be picked up.
Students weren't immediately told the reason behind the lockdown, so their thoughts drifted to the tragic events at Chardon High School.
"I thought somebody came in the school with a gun or something," said Jamaree Allen, Lima Senior student.
"We was kind of scared about it like what if there is somebody in the school or whatever. But we didn't think nothing about a bomb threat. We didn't know until we got out of the school really," said Desmond Johnson, Lima Senior student.
School administrators also thought about the school shooting and remained cautious.
 
Update:

Deadline looms for charges in Ohio high school shooting


Published March 01, 2012
| FoxNews.com


  • TJ%20Lane.jpg

    AP
    Feb. 28: T.J. Lane, 17, is led from Juvenile Court by Sheriff's deputies in Chardon, Ohio, after his arraignment in the shooting of five high school students Monday. Three of the five students wounded in the attacks have since died.

The deadline to file charges in a fatal Ohio high school shooting loomed as students still reeling from the killings of three teenagers planned a march to return to their school.
A judge said prosecutors had until Thursday to file charges against the suspect, T.J. Lane, a thin, quiet 17-year-old accused of opening fire on a group of students sitting at a cafeteria table at 1,100-student Chardon High School on Monday. Three students died, and two were seriously wounded.
A prosecutor has said Lane, who is in custody, will probably be charged with three counts of aggravated murder and other offenses. Prosecutors are expected to ask that he be tried as an adult.

T.J. Lane had been in trouble before, accused of choking and punching another male in an assault case from 2009, according to court records released Wednesday by Judge Timothy Grendell. Lane entered the juvenile court equivalent of a guilty plea to a reduced misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct and was given a suspended sentence of up to 30 days in jail.
Grendell wouldn't say if there are other files on Lane that might be covered by a law allowing certain records to be withheld.
Longtime neighbors and friends on Wednesday expressed disbelief at how Lane could be the suspect, describing a boy from a broken family who had struggled in school but appeared to improve once he began staying with his grandparents and attending an alternative school with several dozen students.
"He went from flunking out, from what I understand, to almost a straight-A student with honors and he was going to graduate a year early," said Russ Miller, who has known Lane for more than a decade and lives near Jack Nolan, Lane's grandfather. Nolan has familial custody of the teenager.
Miller, a Vietnam veteran, said he had talked to Lane about joining the military, but the boy hadn't made plans.
"He was a typical 17-year-old," Miller said. "He didn't really know what he wanted to do in his life." He said Lane didn't smoke, drink or do drugs and is "kind of a health nut."
Another neighbor said Lane played outside often with his sister, building snow hills and skateboarding.
Steve Sawczak, a pastor who has worked with troubled children and lives next to the Nolans, said he never saw hints of trouble from Lane. He said the grandparents gave Lane a healthy place to live and have been left shocked and devastated.
Lane's father, Thomas Lane, had served time in prison on charges of disrupting public service and felonious assault, according to state prison records. Neighbors said he visited his son often, sometimes taking him and his sister camping or to the school to catch the bus.
Prosecutor David Joyce has described the younger Lane as "someone who's not well" and said the teen didn't know the victims but chose them randomly. Killed were Demetrius Hewlin, 16, Russell King Jr., 17, and Daniel Parmertor, 16.
Hewlin's parents told ABC News they have forgiven Lane for shooting their son, noting that Demetrius was often late for school, but not late enough on Monday.
Demetrius' mother Phyllis Ferguson said Wednesday she doesn't know what her son's last moments were like, but she can't worry about that.
"You have to accept things and move on," she said.
When asked what she would say to the suspected shooter, Ferguson said, "I would tell him I forgive him because, a lot of times, they don't know what they're doing. That's all I'd say." Hewlin's parents said they are donating his organs. Their son would have turned 17 next week.
An 18-year-old girl who was hurt in the shootings was released from the hospital Tuesday and was home with relatives, who declined to comment. The second injured teen remained in serious condition Wednesday at a suburban Cleveland hospital.
Meanwhile, the faculty parking lot at Chardon High was jammed as teachers returned to the school, with grief counselors on hand. Parents and students were encouraged to return to the school Thursday, a day before classes resume, and some teens planned to march there from the main square about three-quarters of a mile away, along a street where red ribbons were tied to the trees.
President Obama on Wednesday offered condolences to Chardon High School principal Andy Fetchik, telling him in a phone call he was heartbroken by the news and asking how the principal and school community were holding up, The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer reported.
A law enforcement official familiar with the investigation said the .22-caliber gun used in the shooting was bought legally in August 2010 from a gun shop in Mentor, Ohio. The official, who spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, said Lane told authorities he stole a gun from his uncle.
But a former county sheriff who has lived near Lane's other grandparents for a long time indicated that the shooting appears to have involved a gun that disappeared from a family barn.
A pistol fitting the description of the one used in the shootings was noticed missing after the shooting, said Carl Henderson, 74, a neighbor of grandparents Thomas and Michelle Lane. He said he has spoken to the grandfather and that the man believes the gun is the same.
Both sides in the legal case are under a gag order imposed by the judge at the prosecutor's request. Grendell earlier barred media outlets from taking photos of the suspect's face, but reversed the decision Wednesday and said Lane, who appeared at his hearing wearing a bulletproof vest, may be photographed at a pending hearing next Tuesday. Social media sites have been full of angry and hate-filled remarks directed at Lane.
The AP transmitted photos and video of Lane that were shot before Tuesday's order. The AP and at least one other media outlet, The Plain Dealer of Cleveland, challenged the judge's order Wednesday.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/0...chool-shooting/?test=latestnews#ixzz1ntAdKGFz
 
"We was kind of scared about it like what if there is somebody in the school or whatever. But we didn't think nothing about a bomb threat. We didn't know until we got out of the school really," said Desmond Johnson, Lima Senior student.

Not to hijack this thread, but the words of this "High School Senior" have me wondering just how he ever passed an English language class. It would seem our educational system continues to fail us in spite of the amounts of money thrown at it.
 
i shant judge. i'm capable of proper linguists. was in advanced classes- including languages. i speak the regional language. the kid that wrote the piece was likely speaking lingo.
 
At 17 this moron should not have been charged as a juvenile


Ohio teen charged with 3 juvenile counts of aggravated murder in school shooting


Published March 01, 2012
| FoxNews.com


  • TJ%20Lane.jpg

    AP
    Feb. 28: T.J. Lane, 17, is led from Juvenile Court by Sheriff's deputies in Chardon, Ohio, after his arraignment in the shooting of five high school students Monday. Three of the five students wounded in the attacks have since died.

An Ohio 17-year-old has been charged with three juvenile counts of aggravated murder in a school shooting that killed three fellow students and wounded two more.
Geauga County prosecutor David Joyce announced the charges against T.J. Lane Thursday. Lane was also charged with two counts of attempted aggravated murder and one count of felonious assault.
It's the first step in proceedings that could see him charged as an adult and facing the possibility of life without parole if convicted.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/0...murder-in-high-school-shooting/#ixzz1nuBIQjV0
 
Kid should be charged as an adult and sent for capital punishment. If his parents (or guardians) left that gun accessible to him then they should be charged as accessories.

I'm not a big gun control advocate but I think that the parents of screwed up kids need to be held responsible if they allow those kids access to weapons such as this.
 
Kid should be charged as an adult and sent for capital punishment. If his parents (or guardians) left that gun accessible to him then they should be charged as accessories.

I'm not a big gun control advocate but I think that the parents of screwed up kids need to be held responsible if they allow those kids access to weapons such as this.
Earlier information was, the gun was stolen from a neighbor or relative, not immediate family.
 
I think we need to develope a way to punish schools that look the other way to bullying. They need to be held accountable to stop these situations from escalating to this level. Kids shooting kids in school=Administration, facluty guilty of letting it happen on school property. These kids being bullied have rights as well.......

Kids who bully need to sit some days out of school for their actions as well as miss sporting events.

Regards, Kirk
 
Kids who bully need to sit some days out of school for their actions as well as miss sporting events.

Regards, Kirk

Depends on the extent of the bullying, I'd think.
If it were me, I'd have these kids expelled and sent away to "tough love camp" to whip their asses back in shape before the problem gets out of hand in the first place.
 
PG,

My point exactly...be proactive in some form or another to head this off before it escalates to this terrible out come. In this case this had been going on for years, and perhaps some was even deserved. It was "known" by the kids and the teachers, but seamingly there wasn't much done. I don't know the whole story, I just remeber seeing this type of thing when I was in school. Me and my twin, were big for our age, never did get bullied much. But I surely saw very uncalled for just plain mean events towards one kid in particular. To this day I wish I would have stepped in and helped him. I regret not doing that. May be this one reason why I get so revved up by this. The teachers in my school knew, and did /very little then either. That poor kid disapeared from the face of the earth at graduation. I don't blame him. No one in our class has known his where abouts for 30+ years. I hope he was able to move on with his life, and be happy. I really do....

Tough subject for me. I have regrets. I never participated, but I could have stopped some of it, but I didn't.

Regards, Kirk
 
My son Jeff was bullied badly in school all because of having a slow way of speaking and walking with a funny gait.
Some kids think of the stupidest things to pick on others over.
Once he got into high school, and then went into law enforcement, that all changed.

I remember a lot of kids who were bullied when I was in school myself, and I always stuck up for them.. even if it meant getting myself in trouble.
 
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