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"Nobody Expected This to Happen in CALIFORNIA"... | Victor Davis Hanson"

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Is California teetering on the edge of collapse? Victor Davis Hanson paints a stark picture of the state’s wildfire crisis and its broader implications for governance, policy, and civilization itself. From gutted fire departments to mismanaged forests, Hanson argues that California’s leadership has turned a preventable disaster into a recurring tragedy.Why are wildfires spiraling out of control? Hanson highlights a series of devastating decisions: the dismantling of the timber industry, refusal to clean forests, and a DEI-focused approach to emergency management that prioritizes ideology over competence. Add to this the negligence of leaders like Gavin Newsom, who dismantled vital dams, and Karen Bass, absent during fire season, and the situation begins to look like what Hanson calls "a civilizational collapse."The results? Homes lost, lives uprooted, and an insurance industry fleeing the state. Hanson connects these policy failures to a larger trend: California’s de-civilization. From water policies that prioritize delta smelt over human needs to energy policies that cripple the economy, the state seems intent on regressing to a 19th-century pastoral ideal—at the expense of its 40 million residents.Is there hope to reverse this spiral, or is California doomed to a future of chaos and decline? Watch as Victor Davis Hanson unpacks the systemic failures leading to this Dante-esque inferno—and what it means for the future of California and beyond
 
Dr Hanson has been talking about the failures of California for years and has been pointing out the issues that have led up to this crisis, and many other potential crises in his twice a week podcasts.

This man is a treasure of wisdom. And he is ignored too often.
 
A view from a California fire fighter and his thoughts on wasting money

I just spent, actually wasted, 25 minutes listening to this blowhard and learned nothing. Yes, he had some good things to say but they were lost in his ego bullshit.

Sad because he obviously knows his trade. But his narrative drifts about the subject and never gets to the point. For instance, he never finished his explanation of why the water pressure dropped. Yes, the pumps may have stopped (unlikely). But every homeowner had their sprinklers running. THAT dropped the system pressure. Fire engines do not need to take pressured water, they draft from the hydrants.
Unless there is plenty of capacity, they will suck the system dry.

The burning leaf story was insulting and actually, not true. Look at any forest fire. Sometimes very green leafy trees actually explode in a fire. I've seen it.

I was a firefighter for 17 years. Guys like this permeate the trade. Sadly, many become the trainers and teachers to real firefighters who have to endure them to get certifications. I would suggest he is of the same breed as most of the politicians with whom he has worked over the decades. He never concludes his point because he is too busy yapping about himself.

Annoying.

If you watch this video, try and get to the last 3 minutes. He gets to the point, and IMHO, it is the only part worth watching
 
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On another forum site, the Californians all defend the policies and politicians. Calling people pointing out these failures idiots and stupid.
I feel no sorrow for them. They get what they got. They will just keep burning.
The proof is in the pudding so to speak. Actually, the proof is in the ashes that used to be LA Metro.

North Carolina suffered what man could not stop. Forest Fires are man-made or man allowed.

Southern California cannot prevent earthquakes. However, for the most part they have hardened their structures to survive them. Supposedly.

Forest fires are another matter. It is now proven they were not prepared.

Don't blame the mayor for being out of town. She could not have made a difference were she standing at the start of the first fire. Blame all the governments, City, county and state, as well as the voters who elected them, for not being prepared for what everyone knew could happen.
 
Good stuff tommu56!

Thanks for posting!
spend the time on Rickey's video and the finical problems in California they are where the country is headed and hopefully this will shed light on the subject.
One of his points in the end and I'm paraphrasing this "all the politician's now are socal people not the the engineer / entrepreneurs that have the physical and mental acuity to design and maintain the infrastructure in Cal. and the USA"!
 
spend the time on Rickey's video and the finical problems in California they are where the country is headed and hopefully this will shed light on the subject.
One of his points in the end and I'm paraphrasing this "all the politician's now are socal people not the the engineer / entrepreneurs that have the physical and mental acuity to design and maintain the infrastructure in Cal. and the USA"!
YUP!
 
All this is true, but at the same time homeowners can harden their own property against fire and protect it yourself.
Those that did down there still have a home to live in. It’s called personal responsibly. I installed a 2500 gallon water tank 100 feet from my home for irrigation and fire supression along with a generator to keep it going when the power goes out. I see the handwriting on the wall, insurance has been doubling year over here and for some it’s the state exchange which can be triple $$$$. 5 years ago it was $1200.00 yearly now $5200.00. When it gets to a grand a month I will become my own insurance company.
 
All this is true, but at the same time homeowners can harden their own property against fire and protect it yourself.
Those that did down there still have a home to live in. It’s called personal responsibly. I installed a 2500 gallon water tank 100 feet from my home for irrigation and fire supression along with a generator to keep it going when the power goes out. I see the handwriting on the wall, insurance has been doubling year over here and for some it’s the state exchange which can be triple $$$$. 5 years ago it was $1200.00 yearly now $5200.00. When it gets to a grand a month I will become my own insurance company.
You had for-sight for a tank. However;;;;

I would like to know how many of these homes had swimming pools. That's 2K to 50K gallons of fresh clean water. Seems to be the norm on S California.

So, how come the FD couldn't draft from some of them?
 
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You had for sight for a tank. However;;;;

I would like to know how many of these homes had swimming pools. That's 2K to 50K gallons of fresh clean water. Seems to be the norm on S California.

So, how come the FD couldn't draft from some of them?
My 2500gallon tank is about 10 in diameter and 10’ tall, the smallest of yards would accommodate that, and yes they should have been able to use the pools, thats how one family saved there own home down there with a cheap pump. I imagine it was jumping roof to roof, likely wouldn’t have taken much, most of the trees didn’t burn.
 
Why didn't the homeowners have a plan for fire? If my home, when I was in California, could have been affected by fire, you can damn well be sure I'd have a gasoline powered water pump to use my 40,000 gallons.
No, this is on the liberals over there that think the government is the answer.
 
You had for-sight for a tank. However;;;;

I would like to know how many of these homes had swimming pools. That's 2K to 50K gallons of fresh clean water. Seems to be the norm on S California.

So, how come the FD couldn't draft from some of them?
A lot of cities don't know how to draft unfortunately they rely on hydrants and don't even have hard sleeves a lot of the time.
Us in rural america are the other way Drafting is our primary source after our tank and tanker (tender to some). hard sleeves, turbo drafts and a thousand ft of 5" hose on a truck and mutual aid on the roll at the first dispatch for assistance..
 
This video and one of her other videos brings up some questions I never though of.
Some of these picture's of the fires still have trees standing with foliage at top and everything burnt around it????
most of the forest fires I've been the under brush does burn fast and from about grade to 10ft gets charred on these trees
now lets look at these houses high fuel load burnt to white ash complete combustion not charred and timbers left.

In one of her other videos the person she has on says it an outside energy doing it he had picture's of timbers on a fence the post is intact except for the nails and hardware in the post that was burnt but the main part wasn't even charged. his theory was some sort of enegry on the wires creating the hot space on the post but hardly affecting the post portion without hardware.

Posing a lot of Questions in my mind for sure.




 
Likely all asphalt comp roofs. The fire just jumped roof to roof most likely, the metal roof on my cabin is likely why it survived a forest fire.
I just finished the fron of my house with new asphalt shingles. Before going to the Garage and back of the house, i am considering metal. The HOA has approved metal roofs. So, it is a question of costs.

However, since buying my Ozark property 20 years ago, we have had two forest fires nearby. One even encroached the property. So no how no way I will put anything but metal on the roof.
For the record, we got a bargain when we bought the place because it had just suffered a major fire.
It would seem the place is prone to such catastrophes.

Therefore, the house/cabin will be surrounded by large gravel driveways and no decorative shrubbery.

I am currently planning on composite siding but may consider metal there as well.
 
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I just finished the fron of my house with new asphalt shingles. Before going to the Garage and back of the house, i am considering metal. The HOA has approved metal roofs. So, it is a question of costs.

However, since buying my Ozark property 20 years ago, we have had two forest fires nearby. One even encroached the property. So no how no way I will put anything but metal on the roof.
For the record, we got a bargain when we bought the place because it had suffered a major fire.
It would seem the place isprone to such catastrophes.

Therefore, the house/cabin will be surrounded by large gravel driveways and no decorative shrubbery.

I am currently planning on composite siding but may consider metal there as well.
When I had a fire at my camp the brush grass burnt up to the pole garage I have about 18" stone around it it survived.
The cabin on concrete piers wasn't so lucky it burnt to the ground from the fire going under it and lighting the wooden floor and the rest to follow.
The the rebuild cabin is a pole building style with the stone around it like the garage has.
 
I hope to set the cabin on break faced "H" block. The kind they use to build retaining walls. Decks will be fire resistant or fireproof concrete. Yes, they make 1"X6" concrete deck boards.

I don't want Quaint. I want durability.
 
It gets better Gavin Newsom supports this page that eventually siphons off 4% off the top to actblue

Newsom defends fire response with fact-check site linking to Dem Party fundraising platform​


 
It gets better Gavin Newsom supports this page that eventually siphons off 4% off the top to actblue

Newsom defends fire response with fact-check site linking to Dem Party fundraising platform​


So, roughly 4% of the donations goes to the Democratic party. Processing fee.

Got it!
 
I'm back in my rabbit hole :)
Its a long video but its good covers many topics to make you think about population density, forest density, renewable energy, nuclear energy, biofuel and I can go on.

Mike Rowe and Edward Ring on forest management / mismanagement.
"Edward Ring is the director of water and energy policy for the California Policy Center, which he co-founded in 2013 and served as its first president. He is also a senior fellow with the Center for American Greatness, and a regular contributor to the California Globe. His work has appeared in the Los Angeles Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Economist, National Review, City Journal, and other media outlets. Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from UC Davis, and he has an MBA in Finance from USC. Ring is the author of several books, including “Fixing California – Abundance, Pragmatism, Optimism” (2021), “The Abundance Choice – Our Fight for More Water in California” (2022), and “Solutions – Innovative Public Policy for California” (2024)."
 
I read where over 110 fire trucks were inthe shop. No money to fix them
Well, turns out there was no reason to fix them. They cut staff, ie; Firefighters, by 381 persons and therefore, had no one to operate the idled trucks.

It all makes sense now don't it? :mad: :whistling:
 
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