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Moving IRA's, 401K's, 403B's...

bczoom

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It's tax time so all my statements are coming in.

I'm diversified all right... with too many different companies.

A couple quick questions:
If you withdraw from one, how long do you have to put in another?
If you don't deposit in another, what's the penalties?
Can you take various IRA's, 401K's and 403B's and put into a single account or are their rules that say you can't mix them?
 
Nobody has replied so here's some thoughts to get you started:

If you withdraw from one plan, don't let them write the check to you. Have them make it payable to the trustee of the plan you are consolidating into. A wire transfer is preferable. These measures avoid the appearance that the disbursement is ordinary income to you in the year they disbursed it.

By all means, consolidate! You could be getting all that info on a single statement. A large investment company like Vanguard, Fidelity, or AIG will accept your current investments held elsewhere and keep them intact, after you direct that those investments be moved into their custody. In fact they will do all the work, you just sign documents requesting them to pull in the investments from other firms and they do the rest.

Vanguard has the lowest costs in the industry, Fidelity had by far the best service when I researched this long ago, and now AIG is presently getting the most new money to manage due to good investment returns and agressive marketing. All are good.

I went with Fidelity 20 ? years ago and have found the service to be uniformly excellent. Checking, credit cards, brokerage, retirement custodian all on one statement with a single monthly grand total. That left me free to think about investment strategy rather than wading through dis-similar monthly statements. Think of something at 3am, no problem, they answer the phone and the kid at the call center has an intelligent answer to anything I can throw at him. Vanguard in contrast had (has?) 40 hour/week EST phone service and I'm 3 time zones west of them.

In the last year of Dad's life he asked me to figure out his investments and as prospective Trustee I saw an enormous need to get things in rational order. For example 30 years ago he bought a couple hundred shares of ATT, then it divested all the baby Bells and they divested things like Lucent, Airtouch Cellular and Vodafone. If those new firms offered a no-fee investment plan, Dad put a few hundred $ into each of the spinoffs. Eventually he had dividend reinvestment plans and direct purchase accounts (not the same thing) as well as personally owned paper shares (not brokerage-held) going with a great number of them. Each separately sent him monthly statements and many sent small dividend checks mysteriously. Year-end was a blizzard of 1099's. And no stockbroker in sight, he was dealing with each company's Dividend Reinvestment or Investor Relations department directly. Who all had robots answer their phones. (Remember this is still the 'Phone Company' in all its many forms). Big mess. Fidelity knew what to do, what to look for, how to consolidate all this into a single monthly statement. That is expertise I don't think you can buy anywhere.

I recommend call Fidelity 800 544 4442 day or night to discuss what you have, and how to consolidate it.
 
Same situation. Scottrade was a perfect fit for us. Online trading for peanuts, but local offices all over the nation ready to help where needed. Our closest office is about 25 mile away in Vero Beach, but we've stopped in there several times to get things in order. We've consolidated stock purchases back to 1959, paper shares, broker held shares from a couple of different brokers, DRIPS, a couple of IRAs and a SEP, and much more. One primary difference; we've never done well with mutual funds and our corporate investments are 100% in individual stocks.

We also consolidated my Mother-in-laws accounts, which are jointly administered by her two daughters (my wife and her sister, who lives near San Francisco, almost as far away as she can be), through Scottrade. My sister-in-law and her husband were so impressed by the service they switches all their brokerage and retirement services to Scottrade.

I have no stake in Scottrade; just reporting great service when I find it.
 
I am thinking of moving everything to Fidelity.

Instead of the wire transfer, I was thinking of having them cut me a check and then I re-deposit within the window. What's the allowable window?
 
Call that Fidelity number for the answer! They will answer that kind of question day or night.
 
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