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Monsanto is now immune....

I m having a little trouble with the ype here.

First, GenMod crops do not have a "proven" effecton Hman health. Not even a causual one.

Second, i was unaware of the fire hazard of GEnMod Plants. Is there some evidence of that?
“In this hidden backroom deal, Senator Mikulski turned her back on the consumer, environmental, and fire protection in favor of corporate welfare for biotech companies such as Monsanto. This abuse of power is not the kind of leadership the public has come to expect from Senator Mikulski or the Democratic Majority in the Senate.”
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Senator Blunt is from Missouri. It should be of no surprise he accepted large contributins from a St Louis based Corporation. WOW!

All the hype needs some facts behind it.

GenMod and Selective hybridizing have met with resistance for hundreds of years. When John Stark put Apricot and Almond tree shoots on Plum root systems, (So they would grow well in different soils and climates), it was called the Devil's work.

Luther Burbank did the Devils work as he improved the potatoe to the hugely cultivated and eaten crop of today. But not before great resistance from the "crazies" of his time.

The other day I saw a special on why the New Wheat makes us Obese. It supposedly was the result of selective breeding, not GenMod plants, that was done back in the 1800's to improve per acre yields and allow more nothern cultivations. A great acheivement back then heralded as a miracile! Today, since we messed with nature, we are now being scolded for creating our own cause of obesity.

There are issues with modern agriculture. For example, fructose is not a natural sugar. Unlike Cane and Beet sugars, it must be chemicaly converted from corn. Where is the farmer's outrage on that?

Monsanto led the charge on Gen Mods. They succeeded. Most of the Hype comes from competitors and farmers who don't want to buy expensive seed even though it improves yeilds. Monsanto's competitors are trying to level the field using politics and fear.

Seems no one wants to commend Monsanto for success. I remember when success got you praised? Now, it lands you in court,,,,:hammer:,unless you make good friends in Congress
 
FrancSevin said:
I m having a little trouble with the ype here.

First, GenMod crops do not have a "proven" effecton Hman health. Not even a causual one.

Second, i was unaware of the fire hazard of GEnMod Plants. Is there some evidence of that?

GenMod and Selective hybridizing have met with resistance for hundreds of years.
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The effect on human health is still in question. CDC allergy rates have shown a large increase in food allergies. I don't have time to share a link to this...

I have no idea what the fire hazzard of GMO reference is about. This is "out there somewhere" and not true...

Big difference between gentically modifing and selective breeding. GMO creationg involves changing the DNA with microscopes and micro tools. It has only been done sine the late 80's. It involves taking gentic matirial form an unrelated organizm and spicing the gene seqeneces into a single new cell, them propogating it get an actual plant to raise for the "new" seed it will produce. This technology came from cancer reasearch bye the way....

You can do selective breeding in your back yard this spring. No lab or test tubes gene squensors or patents to worry about. This technoogy has been in use for 200 years or more. It has served us well with very little concern about safty, as the rules of nature are in force. Your not taking a toxic bacteria's strand of DNA from and putting in a plant for it to make that same toxic substance. It can not be done at all this way.

GMO technology is no less dangerous than nuclear energy. Both have the promise of benifiting man kind. But both can be used to destroy mankind, if mistakes are made.. We regulate nuclear energy, but sadly we don't GMO technolgy. Monsanto is free to dabble any way they like, and believe me they are....

I am light on the supporting facts here I admitt. There is plenty of info on the net to back up what I am saying...

Regards, Kirk
 
It was Monsanto political donations that stripped organic label mandates out by one of the usurper's Friday night executive orders.
 
300 H and H said:
The effect on human health is still in question. CDC allergy rates have shown a large increase in food allergies. I don't have time to share a link to this...

I have no idea what the fire hazzard of GMO reference is about. This is "out there somewhere" and not true...

Big difference between gentically modifing and selective breeding. GMO creationg involves changing the DNA with microscopes and micro tools. It has only been done sine the late 80's. It involves taking gentic matirial form an unrelated organizm and spicing the gene seqeneces into a single new cell, them propogating it get an actual plant to raise for the "new" seed it will produce. This technology came from cancer reasearch bye the way....

You can do selective breeding in your back yard this spring. No lab or test tubes gene squensors or patents to worry about. This technoogy has been in use for 200 years or more. It has served us well with very little concern about safty, as the rules of nature are in force. Your not taking a toxic bacteria's strand of DNA from and putting in a plant for it to make that same toxic substance. It can not be done at all this way.

GMO technology is no less dangerous than nuclear energy. Both have the promise of benifiting man kind. But both can be used to destroy mankind, if mistakes are made.. We regulate nuclear energy, but sadly we don't GMO technolgy. Monsanto is free to dabble any way they like, and believe me they are....

I am light on the supporting facts here I admitt. There is plenty of info on the net to back up what I am saying...

Regards, Kirk
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Good response Kirk. Well said.

I would point out however,two things.

One GenMods are done on crops that need cultivation. Just as a grafted appletreed canot "Go Wild."neither canmost of today's foodcrops.

Corn as we know it, even in it's so called natural "heritage" state cannot plant itself and grow wild. I have never seen a volunteer corn or soy bean crop go more than one year on it's own. Point being, it is unlikely to "get out" and take over the world

Secondly, one cannot do selective breeding in their back yard and amount to much any more. It takes years of careful breeding with areal knowledge of genetics and careful detailed records. Success/failure rates are like 3 per thousand.

The reality is that we must produce new breeds that can sustain yeilds with less energy and pesticide requirements in order to feed our world. The population growth maytaper off but meanwhile it is increasing expotentialy.

Back in the late 1800's Margeret Sanger and her elitists Eugenics pals predicted the world could only support 6 to 7 billion souls. We are way beyond that now. Primaruily because our botonist and scientist, mostly private industry and private funding,,,,have increased crop yeilds per Acre and per man hour.

What was a good Bushel per acre Corn yeild grown in New Mexican silt back in 1955? AsI recall something like 55 to 65 BU per Acre. Mostly hard won on 180 to 360 acre family spreads.

Today one man does 2000 acres.

What is the acre yeild now?

In point of fact, I believe we have done more damage to our natural environment planting exotic flowers accross natural borders andseasthan anything done by cloning and hybridizing. thats why we have day lillies and honeysuckle bushes in all the lower 48 states, all from European gardens. Yet know one is starving from their growth in the wild.

Would you ban Golden delisious apples? Idaho white Potatoes?
 
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