Living life with purpose and values

[SShepherd]

I'm curious, do you ?

Do you have a set of values you follow ? How steadfast are you in your resolve to follow them?

 

[Trakternut]

Yes, I do. I won't enumerate them unless asked. Steadfastness?? I try like hell every day. Sometimes, I even succeed!

 

[snow dog]

YES, I have values, but the scope of those are broad enough to allow me to live life to the fullest

 

[EastTexFrank]

Yes, I do. I won't enumerate them unless asked. Steadfastness?? I try like hell every day. Sometimes, I even succeed!

What he said.

I'm generally a live and let live kind of guy but there are some things that I won't compromise on. It's cost me a friend or two over the years and alienated some acquaintance but I can live with that. At the end of the day, I have to live with myself and as long as I've at least made the attempt then I'm happy with that.

 

[loboloco]

Of course. I doubt my values would be the same as others, but I try to live by, and if necessary am willing to die for, the things I believe in.

 

[mak2]

Yep.

 

[joec]

Yes I do and always have.

 

[SShepherd]

What he said.

I'm generally a live and let live kind of guy but there are some things that I won't compromise on. It's cost me a friend or two over the years and alienated some acquaintance but I can live with that. At the end of the day, I have to live with myself and as long as I've at least made the attempt then I'm happy with that.

Would you like to explain that a little more ?

 

[XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq]

Got some values - not so sure on the purpose anymore. Just kind of cruising along where ever life takes me. Hoping I last long enough to get the kids grown up.

 

[SShepherd]

I'm finding more and more that people I know have very little in the way of values, unless they are self serving. They're willing to lie, cheat, and spread rumors about people to get what they want or make themselves look/feel good.
it bothers me a bit

 

[jpr62902]

I'm finding more and more that people I know have very little in the way of values, unless they are self serving. They're willing to lie, cheat, and spread rumors about people to get what they want or make themselves look/feel good.
it bothers me a bit

That used to bother me, too. Then I realized that the only "control" I have is over me, so I decided to cut waaaaaaayyyyy back on the time I choose to spend with such folks.

 

[JackieBlue]

I try to be the best person I can be and I treat people the way I want to be treated. I try to instill this in my children too...to be kind to others and to have compassion for others.

 

[SShepherd]

That used to bother me, too. Then I realized that the only "control" I have is over me, so I decided to cut waaaaaaayyyyy back on the time I choose to spend with such folks.

And thats where I'm at. Don't think of me as a dolt, but does that happen as a person gets older?
I've never had close friends ( other than my wife). Just casual friendships. Lately it seems that after a year or so you start seeing very shallow, highschool behavior. Lieing, or simply tolerant of people who do wrong to others but don't want to rock the boat. Calling someone out for improper behavior makes you look like the badguy.
Maybe i was born 50 years to late.

 

[JackieBlue]

And thats where I'm at. Don't think of me as a dolt, but does that happen as a person gets older?
I've never had close friends ( other than my wife). Just casual friendships. Lately it seems that after a year or so you start seeing very shallow, highschool behavior. Lieing, or simply tolerant of people who do wrong to others but don't want to rock the boat. Calling someone out for improper behavior makes you look like the badguy.
Maybe i was born 50 years to late.

I've seen it all too often also. Very sad really.

 

[jpr62902]

And thats where I'm at. Don't think of me as a dolt, but does that happen as a person gets older?
I've never had close friends ( other than my wife). Just casual friendships. Lately it seems that after a year or so you start seeing very shallow, highschool behavior. Lieing, or simply tolerant of people who do wrong to others but don't want to rock the boat. Calling someone out for improper behavior makes you look like the badguy.
Maybe i was born 50 years to late.

Meh. Calling someone out once doesn't make you the bad guy. Repeatedly doing it makes you look like you're controlling, IMHO. Decide what your tolerance levels are and interact with such folks accordingly. That's my method. It's workin' so far.

 

[SShepherd]

Meh. Calling someone out once doesn't make you the bad guy. Repeatedly doing it makes you look like you're controlling, IMHO. Decide what your tolerance levels are and interact with such folks accordingly. That's my method. It's workin' so far.

and thats the rub, if they do something i don't approve of twice, I'm history. I also don't think that standing up for what is right controlling.
Lieing, stealing, cheating, gossiping, I have no tolerance for. We live in a pretty small community-very "payton place". I do my best to stay out of everything that involves those types of people but it's becoming harder and harder. I'm finding myself being more anti social, and very standoffish to people which is not my usual nature.

 

[jpr62902]

and thats the rub, if they do something i don't approve of twice, I'm history. I also don't think that standing up for what is right controlling.
Lieing, stealing, cheating, gossiping, I have no tolerance for. We live in a pretty small community-very "payton place". I do my best to stay out of everything that involves those types of people but it's becoming harder and harder. I'm finding myself being more anti social, and very standoffish to people which is not my usual nature.

Geez, I just said repeatedly calling them out makes you look controlling. What are you? OLD?

Just kidding, Shep. I know how you feel.

I moved out of that environment with my dee-vorce. I miss the true friendships I made with my neighbors, but I don't miss the high school BS from the sphincters who still act the same way.

 

[SShepherd]

Geez, I just said repeatedly calling them out makes you look controlling. What are you? OLD?

Just kidding, Shep. I know how you feel.

I moved out of that environment with my dee-vorce. I miss the true friendships I made with my neighbors, but I don't miss the high school BS from the sphincters who still act the same way.

There's a saying something like- if you haven't made a lifelong fiends by your 20's you never will"
I've reconnected with people I knew from highschool, guess I shouldn't have. We've met new people, mostly self serving, self centered people. Either they're spinless moral reletivists, or they're so worried about one upping everyone it makes you sick.

 

[pirate_girl]

I'm curious, do you ?

Do you have a set of values you follow ? How steadfast are you in your resolve to follow them?

I try to.
My parents instilled a lot of things in me that I carry with me to this day.
Honesty, hard work, humour, religion and paying close attention to what people are saying to you.

I thinks it's of the utmost importance to really listen to people and observe them, and to open yourself up wide to those in whom you trust.
Love and caring are the only things you need in your heart in order to make your world keep turning.
Everything else just seems to fall into place.

 

[jpr62902]

There's a saying something like- if you haven't made a lifelong fiends by your 20's you never will"
I've reconnected with people I knew from highschool, guess I shouldn't have. We've met new people, mostly self serving, self centered people. Either they're spinless moral reletivists, or they're so worried about one upping everyone it makes you sick.

I'm sorry to read this, Shep. I'm fortunate to have a best friend from grade school, a couple more from high school and again some more that I've met in my professional life, and I love them all. I truly do feel blessed in this regard. They are some really, really good folks. Come on down! I'll introduce ya to 'em!

 

[Cowboy]

and thats the rub, if they do something i don't approve of twice, I'm history. I also don't think that standing up for what is right controlling.
Lieing, stealing, cheating, gossiping, I have no tolerance for. We live in a pretty small community-very "payton place". I do my best to stay out of everything that involves those types of people but it's becoming harder and harder. I'm finding myself being more anti social, and very standoffish to people which is not my usual nature.

Yes I have values And I have allways tried to damn hard to be nice to people & treat them like I expect to be treated & in every friggen case I have been everything but shit on by them .


That is why I am the way I am & choose not to have any types of dealings with people in person unless it is buisness related and I keep that on a one to one basis by appointment only . Not one single soul is allowed on our property without being invited & calling ahead of time of there arrival . If there is more then one person in the vehicle I dont let them in the gate Period .

We have one couple we invite out about twice a year & thats one time to many as everything is allways about them and they are basiclly users as well .

I have had several very good older friends in the past, but all had passed away about the same time I became a hermit .

I consider most folks on this forum that I have never met, to be better friends then I have came into contact with in the last decade or so . I'm also reasonablly sure if we met in person I would have more friends then I ever had before . I may be an asshole but I'm not a bad person

We also have no contact with any family other then email other then the kids & the new grandaughter . I also have a brother and sister and never care to see them in person again but I still email them once in awhile .

 

[mak2]

There is a lot of good people out there that are worth knowing, Cowboy. Bet you are probably one of them.

 

[JEV]

There's a saying something like- if you haven't made a lifelong fiends by your 20's you never will"
I've reconnected with people I knew from highschool, guess I shouldn't have. We've met new people, mostly self serving, self centered people. Either they're spinless moral reletivists, or they're so worried about one upping everyone it makes you sick.

If you never bare your soul, you'll never be disappointed. Been disappointed/hurt too many time in my youth to ever let anyone get that close again.

 

[SShepherd]

Yes I have values And I have allways tried to damn hard to be nice to people & treat them like I expect to be treated & in every friggen case I have been everything but shit on by them .


That is why I am the way I am & choose not to have any types of dealings with people in person unless it is buisness related and I keep that on a one to one basis by appointment only . Not one single soul is allowed on our property without being invited & calling ahead of time of there arrival . If there is more then one person in the vehicle I dont let them in the gate Period .

We have one couple we invite out about twice a year & thats one time to many as everything is allways about them and they are basiclly users as well .

I have had several very good older friends in the past, but all had passed away about the same time I became a hermit .

I consider most folks on this forum that I have never met, to be better friends then I have came into contact with in the last decade or so . I'm also reasonablly sure if we met in person I would have more friends then I ever had before . I may be an asshole but I'm not a bad person

We also have no contact with any family other then email other then the kids & the new grandaughter . I also have a brother and sister and never care to see them in person again but I still email them once in awhile .

lol, now you sound like me !
In this world it seems that if you stand for something..anything with a moral code or integrity, people simply cannot handle it.
An example;

About 4 years ago I cut back on my drinking. My fear of going to jail for something stupid is right up there next to my fear of doctors. Besides that it seems that "paying the piper" hurts alot more the next say than it used to.
Well, the people around you just cannot seem to deal with it. Insted of just understanding I'm not being judgemental- they feel threatened and lash out with "oh, he thinks he' better than us".
Remember., I simply made a choice not to drink because it makesme feel like crapola the next day- I made no moral judgement about it or people who do. Hell, I make my own beer !.

LMAO, "I may be an asshole, but I'm not a bad guy"

Cowboy, the more I say that the more I like it