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Is there really a differance between asprins?

working woman

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Does anyone know if there really is a difference between a doggie asprin and a asprin for a human?

One of my dogs injured his front leg the other day while digging. Last night he was doing some major limping so I broke down and gave him a baby asprin, and one this morning. I know they have "dog asprin" but is there a difference, also does anyone know about dosage?
 
I have been told by several veterinarians over the years that it is fine to give my dog a baby aspirin when she is in pain.
 
Cant' give you an honest answer, but my neighbors are sales rep's for the drug community. And they give their dog regular aspirin every so often. I am not sure if it is regular aspirin or tylenol or ibuprofhin.


murph
 
Aspirin is aspirin. There are coated asprins which are just asprin with coatings to help digest it in the instestine instead of the stomach.

As for dosage, that is a weight based issue. If you are giving it to a dog, ask the vet for the proper dose for the dog's weight. If you are giving it to a human, look at the bottle for the dose.

If you are near a willow tree you can just chew on some tender bark and get the same effect. The same chemical acetylsalicyic acid, or salicyic acid is in the tree bark of a willow and is the chemical that we commonly call aspirin. [SIZE=-1][/SIZE]
 
working woman said:
I know they have "dog asprin" but is there a difference...?
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Yes. Medications for animals will be marked as "Unfit for human consumption."

We run into this all the time with the meds for the horses...same stuff, different label and price (sometimes higher, frequently lower).
 
DaveNay said:
Yes. Medications for animals will be marked as "Unfit for human consumption."
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Good point Dave. Meds for animals do not have to be as pure as meds for people. Animals meds are allowed to have a higher % of rat poop than people meds. That said, the chemical used in human aspirin and doggy aspirin is the same chemical.
 
B_Skurka said:
If you are near a willow tree you can just chew on some tender bark and get the same effect. The same chemical acetylsalicyic acid, or salicyic acid is in the tree bark of a willow and is the chemical that we commonly call aspirin.
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Quack, Quack!

You can use human aspirin. Dog's have a shorter GI tract so buffered aspirin (aka enteric coated/bufferin) may pass through their whole system with out getting absorbed. You can cut the buffered aspirin in half so that the entiric coating is broken and the aspirin is readily absorbed.

You do have to be careful of the dosage and watch for signs of gastric bleeding and other GI distress.

My vet says I can use a full 325 MG dose on my 65 lb dog. I only use it when her bum shoulder acts up. I'm not sure I would do that level on a regular basis unless there was no other choice.

Don't use Tylenol or Ibuprofen. They have canine versions of Ibuprofen but my Vet was too enthusiastic about them when compared to Aspirin.

Talk to your vet but in low and occasional uses I think your safe.
 
B_Skurka said:
Good point Dave. Meds for animals do not have to be as pure as meds for people. Animals meds are allowed to have a higher % of rat poop than people meds. That said, the chemical used in human aspirin and doggy aspirin is the same chemical.
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You are incorrect in this statement. According to the people at Hoffman La Roche, the medicine for animals is held to a higher standard of purity, since animals that are medicated might be put into the food chain. One of the reasons that animal medicine cost less is there is not much advertising expense involved.

As for the aspirin, dogs can handle larger doses of aspirin than humans can. Dogs should never be given any of the aspirin substitutes, and never give any animal any medication that hasn't been prescribed for the animal. Some human medications are extremely toxic to animals. Cats, as an example, can't handle any aspirin under any circumstances. It is extremely toxic to a cat.
 
OK, then I guess I will start to eat less rat poop and switch to dog meds!
 
I had a dog at one point that severe arthritis. It was in March and rainy he was outside. It got to the point he was wimpering/yelping really bad. At the time I didn't know Tylenol was bad for a dog, so I gave him a couple (120#s). Stopped his wimpering. Someone then told me it was bad, called the vet to find out for sure. He said it was fine, but if extended use it could cause liver problems (will also do that in humans I later found). We ended up having to have the dog put down a couple of days later. I gave him more Tylenol to stop the suffering in his last few days. I don't feel guilty about the Tylenol and he seemed like he appreciated it. Of course, he also appreciated the 8 hamburgers I fed him before the vet put him down. At least he went with a somewhat full belly.:thumb:
 
You will also need to switch from your normal practitioner to a veterinarian, but I am certain that the veterinarian can treat most ailments better than a human doctor. The veterinarian's patients can't tell him where it hurts. If he finds that you are a goner, then he will just give you a injection and end it for you. Put you into a black plastic bag, and out with the refuse you go.... You will save money all around.....
 
Junkman said:
You are incorrect in this statement. According to the people at Hoffman La Roche, the medicine for animals is held to a higher standard of purity, since animals that are medicated might be put into the food chain. One of the reasons that animal medicine cost less is there is not much advertising expense involved.

As for the aspirin, dogs can handle larger doses of aspirin than humans can. Dogs should never be given any of the aspirin substitutes, and never give any animal any medication that hasn't been prescribed for the animal. Some human medications are extremely toxic to animals. Cats, as an example, can't handle any aspirin under any circumstances. It is extremely toxic to a cat.
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Additionally, if you look at the economics of the mass production of this stuff it makes little sense to run seperate operations one "dirty" and one "clean". In most cases the companies are re-selling bulk chemicals and they may or may not be the ones distilling the chemical into pill form (or whatever).

I think the other reason vet drugs are cheaper is that the insurance costs are much less. Not too many dogs, cats, etc successfully sue a drug company. Heck a dog would be lucky to live through the time it takes to settle a single class action suit.
 
Junkman said:
Cats, as an example, can't handle any aspirin under any circumstances. It is extremely toxic to a cat.
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Thanks Junk! :cool2: :thumb:

Here kitty-kitty-kitty.

I hate cats as much as Eric hates wood...
 
bczoom said:
Thanks Junk! :cool2: :thumb:

Here kitty-kitty-kitty.

I hate cats as much as Eric hates wood...
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Would you like a copy of my book......... 99 ways to WOK a cat..:cool2:

It is available in English, Korean, and Chinese
 
Right now, my dog Buddy is on Phenobarbitol, Prednisone and Imuran. All three are also used on humans. I can buy a months supply of all three for him at about $25. Try buying a months supply of them from the drug store with a prescription for humans. At one time he was also on Pepcid, Reglan and Pepto Tabs. It was cheaper to buy the Pepcid and Pepto at the vets office than it was at the drug store.
But yes WW, aspirin is aspirin.
 
PBinWA said:
Quack, Quack!


My vet says I can use a full 325 MG dose on my 65 lb dog. I only use it when her bum shoulder acts up. I'm not sure I would do that level on a regular basis unless there was no other choice.



I just looked, baby asprins are only81 mgs. and he weighs about 45 lbs.
How many times a day do you give your dog the asprin?
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Dogs metabolize medicine differently than humans, so the dosage is different, and they need to have it for a more constant time frame for it to be effective. I remember giving my dog 10 mg of Valium to calm her. It took 24 hours before it took effect. That dosage on a human would have put them into a comatose state within an hour. Next time I use Valium injectable and it worked much faster. If your dog is on a aspirin regiment, they should be getting it with meals every day. My Weimeraner was on 180 mg a day for the balance of his life. It kept him relatively pain free from old age. If you want to know more, you will have to make an office visit with me and pay the standard office visit charge. :hide:
 
Junkman said:
Dogs metabolize medicine differently than humans, so the dosage is different, and they need to have it for a more constant time frame for it to be effective. I remember giving my dog 10 mg of Valium to calm her. It took 24 hours before it took effect. That dosage on a human would have put them into a comatose state within an hour. Next time I use Valium injectable and it worked much faster. If your dog is on a aspirin regiment, they should be getting it with meals every day. My Weimeraner was on 180 mg a day for the balance of his life. It kept him relatively pain free from old age. If you want to know more, you will have to make an office visit with me and pay the standard office visit charge. :hide:
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I"m pretty sure this is a temp. thing. I know it was the digging that injured something he really goes at it (think it was the dirt in the toenails that gave him away)
 
working woman said:
I"m pretty sure this is a temp. thing. I know it was the digging that injured something he really goes at it (think it was the dirt in the toenails that gave him away)
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Just under his toe nail? :pat:
 

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no, his nose was covered to, and the paw printson the kitchen floor. cant tell how covered his coat is until it drys. He is solid black, and it just blends in.

see your dog had been at it though!!
 
working woman said:
I just looked, baby asprins are only81 mgs. and he weighs about 45 lbs.
How many times a day do you give your dog the asprin?
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Why don't you try cutting one regular strength one in half and see how he does.

Keep in mind that if your dog is bleeding from a cut in his paw that aspirin is an anticoagulant and may slow down any clotting.

Junkman gave good advice - talk to your vet. Don't pay him (Junkman) anything - he'll have your dog in rehab before you know it.:whistle:
 
If he has a cut paw, then just let him lick it till it is clean. It will heal on its own, and paws are not good suture candidates, unless it is fresh and you can get good closure. Also prone to infection if you suture them. Usually put the dog on a antibiotic for 10 - 14 days to take care of any infection possibilities as a prophylactic treatment. That will be $55 for after hours consultation, and follow up care will be extra.
 
Junkman said:
If he has a cut paw, then just let him lick it till it is clean. It will heal on its own, and paws are not good suture candidates, unless it is fresh and you can get good closure. Also prone to infection if you suture them. Usually put the dog on a antibiotic for 10 - 14 days to take care of any infection possibilities as a prophylactic treatment. That will be $55 for after hours consultation, and follow up care will be extra.
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There are no cuts in his paw, or anywere on his leg. He does keep licking around his knee area, and really doenst want me touching it. I really think he just strained it.
The problem with calling the vet is that I just moved back to this area from NC at the end of Sept. So the local vet I am using does not "know" my dog. If he is not better tomorrow I'll take him to the vet
 
Re: Is there really a difference between aspirins?

bobpierce said:
Here kitty, kitty, kitty... :thumb:
Aww, just kidding. Couldn't bring myself to hurt any fuzzy thing.
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I feel the same way, but in my younger days, I was know to play with and tease the beavers.
 
Dang it, is there no thread that we can keep her out of?
 

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