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Is Biden Starting WW3 intentionally just to sabotage Trump's peace plan?

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Putin signaled he was willing to talk peace after Trump was elected President.

Zelensky signaled he was willing to talk peace after Trump was elected President.

Biden, throwing fuel onto the fire of international disharmony, may be doing the bidding of the industrial war complex and starting WW3, sacrificing perhaps 100 MILLION lives, just to sabotage Trump's peace talks. Is he that evil? Or is he just stupid?

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Ex-security adviser accuses Biden of trying to 'sabotage' Trump's effort to end Russia-Ukraine war

Defending his tarnished legacy? Biden's turnaround, sabotaging Trump plan to cool down Ukraine/Russian war.
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. . . A former top security aide to Donald Trump on Monday accused the Biden administration of trying to intentionally "sabotage" the President-elect's efforts to bring an end to the Russian war against Ukraine.​
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Former National Security Council chief of staff Fred Fleitz said President Joe Biden was repeatedly unwilling to authorize Ukraine to use U.S.-made missiles to strike deep inside Russia before the election, and his lame-duck decision this weekend to authorize it now smacks of an effort to thwart Trump's effort to create a ceasefire and peace deal.​
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"The timing is really curious, because Biden was reluctant to do this before the election, because he was worried he would escalate the war. He would take a lot of criticism for possibly escalating the war," Fleitz told the John Solomon Reportspodcast. "And now that the election is over, he's made this decision, which Putin has said is a red line and could put Russia at war with the United States.​
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"I don't think this is an effort to give Ukraine leverage in negotiations with Russia, because it's going to make the war worse," he added. "I think this is a deliberate attempt by Joe Biden to sabotage President Trump's efforts to negotiate a ceasefire." . . .​
 
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It could explain the sly dog's cordialness at his meeting with THE Donald earlier this week.
Biden hasn't been someone to trust since he entered politics. Inside the person we may think we know, there is a person we don't know.

That said whether Biden is purposely thwarting Trump's agenda or not, is irrelevant. This action will most certainly elevate hostilities between Ukraine and Putin's Russia. And, it will likely damage any chance for President Trump to achieve and end to the conflict any time soon.
 
The ATACMS permission to hit inside Russia comes with limitations ,namely to be used inside the Kursk Oblast . They announced it publically ,allowing the Russians to move any high value assets out of the danger zone. ATACMS use in Kursk is thought to be a warning to North Korea against bringing more troops to help Russia , will that deter them probably not .
The Biden Administration has for the past year or possibly from the start waged this as a controlled Ukrainian defeat , not a Ukrainian win over Russia ,with their foot dragging on aid at key moments . Their worry , a loss for Russia in Ukraine ,resulting in the disintegration of Russia , ending with possibly multiple warlords having their own Nuclear arsenals .
 
J5 Bombardier said:
The ATACMS permission to hit inside Russia comes with limitations ,namely to be used inside the Kursk Oblast . They announced it publically ,allowing the Russians to move any high value assets out of the danger zone. ATACMS use in Kursk is thought to be a warning to North Korea against bringing more troops to help Russia , will that deter them probably not .
The Biden Administration has for the past year or possibly from the start waged this as a controlled Ukrainian defeat , not a Ukrainian win over Russia ,with their foot dragging on aid at key moments . Their worry , a loss for Russia in Ukraine ,resulting in the disintegration of Russia , ending with possibly multiple warlords having their own Nuclear arsenals .
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I don't believe Russia is in danger of disintegration if Ukraine wins the war and simply expels Russian troops from its borders, even and including Crimea. What does put Russia in an existential crisis, however, and creates a plausible scenario where nuclear warheads and WW3 come in, is when Ukraine is allowed to further attack inside of Russia. That makes the Russian people scared, and that gives Putin the mandate to pull out all the stops.

Zelensky smells blood, and the more aid and support we offer him to attack inside of Russia, the more likely Russia is to take desperate measures, and this escalates.

The right answer, that prevents as much future bloodshed as possible, is the strategy that gets Russia to pull back its troops outside of Ukraine in a way that allows them to save face, and for Ukraine to remain intact at the same time. Everybody goes home, and plays nice again. Biden's move here does not help to get to that answer. At the very least it drags this out, and it may hand Trump a real crisis.
 
I don't believe Ukraine can "win"

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Ukraine doesn't have the manpower to reclaim seized territories in the east, which are inhabited by Russian speaking Ukrainians.

Ukraine is NOT our ally. Ukraine is not, so far as I can tell, an ally of any EU member nation.

Ukraine is corrupt from top to bottom and bribes, skimming and payoffs are the norm. So say my personal friends inside Ukraine.

Giving Ukraine 100 long range missiles, useful as offensive weapons, will NOT materially change the situation in the war but will really piss off Putin, who might be crazy enough to use a nuke just for the fun of it. And Putin, and Russia have numbers on their side in terms of military conscription ability.

Ukraine had a total of 40,000,000 people. Roughly 1/4 of the population fled. So they are down to maybe 30,000,000. Some are elderly. Some are children. Some are women. So how many are of actual fighting age (18 to 40 years old)?

Russia has a population of 150,000,000 people. Russia has the ability to wear down Ukraine by sacrificing lives to war and will do so. Its long long military history, which pre-dates modern Russian and pre-dates the USSR, is a culture throwing bodies into battle. It will do so.

And now North Korea is sending troops to fight inside Russia to repel the Ukrainian invasion which is isolated AWAY from the areas where Russia took control inside Ukraine. With promises of potentially 100,000 total N.K. troops over a period of many months. So Putin can use them as a bulwark to support his troops, and they might even be better equipped than Putin's troops.

The strategy of the Ukrainian invasion boggles my limited understanding of warfare success. It's an isolated area. It is not in a position to cut off supplies to the Russians that are already inside Ukraine. So it seems to be at risk of being cut off and surrounded. Seems like a waste of manpower and potential for huge human losses.
 
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I don't believe Ukraine can "win"

FULL STOP

Ukraine doesn't have the manpower to reclaim seized territories in the east, which are inhabited by Russian speaking Ukrainians.

Ukraine is NOT our ally. Ukraine is not, so far as I can tell, an ally of any EU member nation.

Ukraine is corrupt from top to bottom and bribes, skimming and payoffs are the norm. So say my personal friends inside Ukraine.

Giving Ukraine 100 long range missiles, useful as offensive weapons, will NOT materially change the situation in the war but will really piss off Putin, who might be crazy enough to use a nuke just for the fun of it. And Putin, and Russia have numbers on their side in terms of military conscription ability.

Ukraine had a total of 40,000,000 people. Roughly 1/4 of the population fled. So they are down to maybe 30,000,000. Some are elderly. Some are children. Some are women. So how many are of actual fighting age (18 to 40 years old)?

Russia has a population of 150,000,000 people. Russia has the ability to wear down Ukraine by sacrificing lives to war and will do so. Its long long military history, which pre-dates modern Russian and pre-dates the USSR, is a culture throwing bodies into battle. It will do so.

And now North Korea is sending troops to fight inside Russia to repel the Ukrainian invasion which is isolated AWAY from the areas where Russia took control inside Ukraine. With promises of potentially 100,000 total N.K. troops over a period of many months. So Putin can use them as a bulwark to support his troops, and they might even be better equipped than Putin's troops.

The strategy of the Ukrainian invasion boggles my limited understanding of warfare success. It's an isolated area. It is not in a position to cut off supplies to the Russians that are already inside Ukraine. So it seems to be at risk of being cut off and surrounded. Seems like a waste of manpower and potential for huge human losses.
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Many good points. Especially that eastern Ukraine consists of mostly ethnic Russians, and Russia would win the war of attrition if it comes to that. There is no rational strategy for Zelensky to be pushing into Russia. It appears to be an irrational revenge for Russia invading Ukraine, but as you point out, does not improve Ukraine's relative situation.
The saving face for Russia may be to maintain at least some of the eastern portions of Ukraine that are mostly ethnically Russian, especially if the people that live there would rather be a part of Russia than Ukraine. A way through, therefore, might be to find out in some objective way if that is really the case. If it is, why would Ukraine want to force people to stay a part of Ukraine if they don't want that? And if there's only a minority that wish to remain part of Ukraine, then why not relocate them further west? Instead of spending billions in weaponry aid, the US could help relocate ethnic Ukrainians further west, in preparation for a secession of those areas to Russia. A new border is drawn, and hostilities end.
 
With the drip feeding of Weapons and the Wests agonizing slow pace for every Russian red line they crossed , we are past Ukraine reclaiming It's lost territories in the East and the Crimea , that's not going to happen in the near future. At this point it's also untenable for the Russian Navy as they have lost a good number of their ships and pulled them out of Sevastopol . So as long as the war goes on the Black sea fleet has lost it's safe home.
As for Russia falling apart , things can happen fast there , ie WW1 , the Czar falls , Afghanistan / crushing military spending ended the Soviet Union , and now a bunch of Republics that are not happy under Moscow's rule , waiting for there chance . This is Putin's war and if he fails to bring home a victory , that is satisfactory to Russia , It may just be him that takes the fall . At this point they have around 20 percent of Ukraine , they won't want to give that up in negotiations , and at this time the Russians are burning through , around 1500 killed /wounded men a day , in a major push to take as much territory before Trump takes over.
The Kursk invasion by Ukraine , whether justified in it's use of resources will be decided down the road. Was it an attempt to steal the initiative from the Russians , possibly ,it was a weak spot at the border . The attack it did spook Putin , he literally ignored it and it took the Russians months to amass 50 thousand troops to try and retake it. If the Ukrainians do manage to hold onto parts of the Kursk territory , I imagine it will be traded for Ukraine land during negotiations.
As for another Red Line that has been crossed over ATACMS , I don't think Putin will do anything about it , The Chinese have warned him and the Indians and other would stop doing business with him if he ever crossed that nuclear line.
 

Is Biden Starting WW3 intentionally just to sabotage Trump's peace plan?​


YES! I believe he is indeed stirring the pot to F with Trump's chances of negotiating peace.
 
There will be no WW3. It's been 1000 days now since Russia attacked Ukraine, they have lost twice as many men as Russia and there is no end in sight for them. Just how in hell are they supposed to beat the like of NATO?

North Korean troops will not make any difference. Russia will gladly throw them into the meat grinder like they did with their own Wagner mercenaries.

Not saying Ukraine can win this war, but neither can Russia and this boys and girls is exactly the point Trump is making to both sides to end this bullshit.
 
US has closed and evacuated the embassy in Kiev due to a “potential significant air attack” from Russia.

I've been in contact with friends in Kiev, not sure what they are going to do but they are well aware. They have a remote they can go to, but not sure if they will go.
 
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Biden undercut Trump in the Ukraine-Russia negotiations by allowing Ukraine to shoot American made missiles into Russia, and which will also extend the war in Ukraine. Ukraine gets missiles as gifts from the US tax payers.

Now Biden is cutting off Israel which will extend the war in the middle east. Israel pays for the weapons it buys and gets far less aid that Ukraine, but it does the 'dirty work' of eliminating the terrorists who also plague the US.

 
It appears he is doing it to F with Trump, but really I suspect his strings are being pulled by Obama or someone and he is doing it because they all make money off of both wars. They want to keep them going as long as possible.
 
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