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Illinois Church Shooting today, Baptist Minister Murdered

Melensdad

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Sad event. Seems to be getting to be a bit more common too. Thankfully his gun jammed and he was only able to kill the pastor.

Pastor killed in Ill. church shooting

State police say the suspect stabbed himself after his gun jammed

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29582081/
MARYVILLE, Ill. - A gunman walked down the aisle of a church during a Sunday service and killed the pastor, then stabbed himself and slashed two other people as congregants wrestled him to the ground, authorities said. The man walked into the sprawling red brick First Baptist Church shortly after 8 a.m. and briefly spoke with The Rev. Fred Winters before pulling out a .45-caliber handgun and shooting Winters once in the chest, said Illinois State Police Master Trooper Ralph Timmins.
The gun jammed before the man could fire again, Timmins said. The attacker then pulled out a knife and injured himself before churchgoers subdued him. Two parishioners involved in the struggle also suffered knife wounds, Timmins said.

Relationship unclear

Timmins said officials don't know whether Winters, a married father of two who had led the church for nearly 22 years, and the gunman knew each other. Officials did not know the suspect's name.

"We don't know the relationship (between the gunman and pastor), why he's here or what the circumstances came about that caused him in the first place to be here," Timmins said. The Rev. Mark Jones, another pastor at First Baptist, said he did not recognize the gunman, who he saw briefly before the man pulled out his weapon. Jones went into an adjacent room and did not see the shooting, though he heard a sound like miniature fire crackers. "We have no idea what this guy's motives were," Jones said outside the church. "We don't know if we'll ever know that."

Winters was pronounced dead at Anderson Hospital, spokeswoman Natalie Head said. Two people who were injured at the church were flown to another hospital, Head said.

The gunman and one victim, 39-year-old Terry Bullard, were being treated at St. Louis University Hospital, spokeswoman Laura Keller said. Bullard underwent surgery for stab wounds and was in serious condition, she said.

Gunman underwent surgery
Keller said the gunman underwent surgery Sunday afternoon but could not provide his name, condition or type of injuries. The other victim, Keith Melton, was treated and released from Gateway Regional Medical Center, spokeswoman Kate Allaria said. A man who answered the phone at a listing for Keith Melton in Troy identified himself as Melton's stepson and said Melton had been stabbed but was going to be fine.

First Baptist had an average attendance of 32 people when Winters became senior pastor in 1987; it now has about 1,200 members, according to the church's Web site. Winters also was former president of the Illinois Baptist State Association and an adjunct professor for Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, according to the site.
Congregant Sharla Dryden pulled into the church parking lot for a 9:30 a.m. service in time to see "just a lot of chaos, lot of police, fire, and people just devastated."

"They just said there had been a shooting," said Dryden, 62. "I would have been devastated if anyone had been shot, but to hear it was the pastor was terrible. You just never expect this to happen at a church."

But Jeffrey Hawkins, executive director of the Christian Security Network — a national organization that deals with security, safety and emergency planning for churches, schools and ministries — noted in a statement that while the shooting is a tragedy, it is "one that has been witnessed many times over the years."
Last month, a man shot and killed himself in front of a cross inside televangelist Robert H. Schuller's Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, California. In November, a gunman killed his estranged wife in a New Jersey church vestibule as Sunday services let out.
 
Here is something interesting. It was a GLOCK that jammed:
Sedlacek had 10 rounds of ammunition in a handgun and was carrying two more 10-round magazines in his pocket at First Baptist on Sunday, said Mudge. The .45-caliber Glock jammed after four shots were fired at Winters.
Full story here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/church_shooting
ST. LOUIS – The clergyman gunned down during his sermon at an Illinois church was trying to run from his attacker when he was shot through the heart, according to an investigator's affidavit filed Tuesday.

The account by State detective James Walker's account provides a clearer picture of the Rev. Fred Winters' final moments before he bled to death in front of horrified churchgoers at First Baptist Church in Maryville, Ill., a St. Louis suburb.

Terry Sedlacek, 27, of nearby Troy, was charged Monday with first-degree murder and aggravated battery in connection with the shooting of Winters and the knife wounds suffered by two congregants who wrestled him to the ground after the shooting.
Sedlacek remained in serious condition Tuesday in a St. Louis hospital with self-inflicted wounds to the throat, hospital officials said. One of the injured congregants was still hospitalized in fair condition.

Investigators said they still hadn't pinpointed why Sedlacek allegedly strolled into the church during its early service Sunday, carrying a .45-caliber Glock pistol and three magazines loaded with a total of 30 bullets.
According to Walker's affidavit, Sedlacek entered the sanctuary and walked down the aisle to the front of the church toward the pulpit, where Winters spoke to him.

Walker wrote that Sedlacek then fired at Winters. Investigators have said that bullet clipped the top of the Bible the preacher held, sending pieces of paper spraying like confetti. Many of the roughly 150 witnesses onlookers said it looked like a skit.

Winters, 45, then bolted toward the edge of the stage with Sedlacek running parallel to him, Walker wrote. "Pastor Winters then jumped from the stage where he landed on the ground. Sedlacek then placed himself next to the pastor and fired multiple shots, striking Winters," Walker's affidavit read.

Investigators have said Sedlacek fired four rounds altogether, striking Walker only once, before his gun jammed.
Walker wrote that Sedlacek was trying to flee when he was subdued by two people from the congregation. It was not yet clear if Sedlacek knew Winters, a married father of two who had led the First Baptist Church for nearly 22 years.

However, authorities have said Sedlacek appeared to have planned the attack, since he referred to Sunday as "death day" on a planner that was found in his home and he was carrying enough ammunition to kill 30 people. Madison County State's Attorney William Mudge did not have any other details on the day planner entry. "The only thing I can really comment on is he came armed with many rounds of ammunition and a knife, and I think we can surmise that more bloodshed may have occurred," Mudge said. Sedlacek's attorney, Ron Slemer, told the Belleville News-Democrat on Monday that his client had deteriorated both mentally and physically since contracting Lyme disease.

Slemer did not immediately respond to numerous messages by The Associated Press seeking additional comment. First Baptist Associate Pastor Mark Jones said one of the church's pastors visited with Sedlacek's family Monday. "We actually pray for him," Jones said.
 
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