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Ice Storm - no power

jwstewar

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We had a bit of an snow/ice storm here the last few days. Decided with all of the ice that was predicted I would just work from home Wednesday. Was going OK until about 9:30 or so, the power went out. I turned our vent free gas fire place on. Thought I would turn it on to keep the house from getting cold. Not only did this thing keep the house from getting cold, it kept most of the first floor fairly warm and kept the upstairs almost hot.:clap: So we were good heat wise. I was still worried about the fridges & the sump pump. We've been wanting to do a stand by generator, but have been putting it off to try to save a little money for it. Welp, we put it off too long. I decided Wednesday I was going to go buy a portable one to get us through this winter.

I knew I wasn't going to be able to be too picky as at that time about 30% of the house holds in the county were w/o power. Before the storm Lowes had probably 15 different models for probably 100 or so units in stock. By this time they were down to 2 different models and probably 6 or 7 units. These were little Chinese made diesels. They were 5500 watt and 7500 watts for $2500 & $3500 respectively. Decided on the 5500 watt one and a new diesel can. I then went to an electrical store and bought the stuff to make a cord for it. I bought a 4 prong dryer end, the adapter to go into the generator, and then 40 feet of moisture resistant 10-4. Things were going well. I made the cord up. Put the generator together (wheels, legs, and connect the battery). I put oil in it and fuel it up with diesel. Took a little bit, but finally got it started and I'm letting it idle to warm up. All of a sudden it starts smoking. All of the wires on it started smoking. These were actually on the motor and not the alternator. I call Lowes. They have another. I go get it and take the one on display because the last one in the box has a dent. Not know how the dent was made, decided display was my better choice. Good thing is, they had marked it down $500. Took it home, put oil in it and fueled it up. Go to start it. No keys. I have to go back to Lowes and get the keys from the one I took back because they couldn't find the keys to any of their display models. Finally get it fired up and get it connected. I let it run from about 4:30 until about 10:30 Wednesday night. We were running 2 refridgerators, sump pumps, Garage door openers, most of the lights (not at the same time) in the house), propane furnace fan, igniter for our propane tankless water heater, and the TV and satellite receiver. We were sitting pretty good. In that 6 hours it probably burned just over a gallon of diesel.

Yesterday morning I fired it back up about 6:30 and it ran until 1:00 when the power came back on. Our barn is on a seperate circuit so I left the outside lights on so I could tell when the power came back on. It wasn't my first choice of how to do it, but it worked fine for what we needed. Now I just need to prepare the generator for storage, get a trickle charger for the battery, and get into an excersise routine for it.

Word of warning for anyone thinking of doing this, make sure you turn your main breaker off before you even think about connecting this to your house.
 
BTW, who is going to pull an LB and request pictures of my fueling set-up? BTW, I have the tank on the generator full, the tank on the tractor full, and still have about 8 gallons of the 10 gallons of fuel I bought on Wednesday. Guess I need to buy some Power Service and get it treated don't I?
 
Jim, with you being around as long as you have, I didn't think a request for pics was necessary.

BUT......To make you happy


:nopics:
 
Jim, with you being around as long as you have, I didn't think a request for pics was necessary.

BUT......To make you happy


:nopics:
Funny Cowboy.:w00t2:

Did you just plug it into your dryer outlet or did you already have something set up?

I bought the materials to make a cord up and then just plugged it into the dryer outlet. I then let the dryer breaker be the feed for the entire house. The main breaker stayed turned off until the power came back on - even when I had the generator turned off so that I wouldn't "forget." I ran the cord through the utility room window and put a couple of towels in to keep the cold and sound out as best I could. I wasn't worried about fumes as it this windows sets back about 6 feet from the edge of the garage and then the generator was probably another 10 feet from that. The intake for the furnace is on the other side of the house.
 
I realized after I posted the question that the generator probably doesn't put out more than 50 amps so that is why you can get away with it.

Having a generator gives peace of mind. Are you on a well? That is why I bought mine. No power - no water. The other stuff is just icing on the cake.
 
Funny Cowboy.:w00t2:



I bought the materials to make a cord up and then just plugged it into the dryer outlet. I then let the dryer breaker be the feed for the entire house. The main breaker stayed turned off until the power came back on - even when I had the generator turned off so that I wouldn't "forget." I ran the cord through the utility room window and put a couple of towels in to keep the cold and sound out as best I could. I wasn't worried about fumes as it this windows sets back about 6 feet from the edge of the garage and then the generator was probably another 10 feet from that. The intake for the furnace is on the other side of the house.

I do the same thing with my air compressor outlet. Cords long enough to get the compressor away from the door (which can be closed) by whittling a little on the door .... :biggrin:
 
I've got an 8500 w Coleman I use in case of emergencies. I had occasion to use it in Fla during the hurricanes. I set up a plug in the garage (detached) which had it's own sub panel that tied to a 60 amp breaker in the main panel in the house. I back fed from the garage to the house. What was nice was that because I was located in a flood zone I was required to have a disconnect at the meter. I was able to kill the incoming there and in the main panel. We had a 1 1/2 ton unit I was able to run at night for the master suite. I'd run the hot water and the fridge during the day and shut them off before I turned on the AC. We survived but the wife didn't like it one bit. Could have been worse I told her. We could have left the state she told me....:hammer:

:yum:
 
Fortunately, we aren't on a well. So that was a good thing. Just no hot water. I like what Al has been posting about the tankless water heaters with no electricity required. Unfortantely our tankless does require electricity to light the propane.
 
The ice storm outage hit my area also. I was walking into home depot ready to pay way to much for the only model generator they had when I got a call saying our power was back on. So, I continued procrastinating getting a generator. I plan to do a little shopping around and pick one up after the power is back on in our area.
Considering a whole house natural gas one.

Sounds like you handled the outage very well, and now you are ready for the next time. :thumb:
 
The ice storm outage hit my area also. I was walking into home depot ready to pay way to much for the only model generator they had when I got a call saying our power was back on. ...


That is exactly how I was feeling as I was driving to town. I started to title this post "Took one up the arse...."
 
It's no lie that when you need it you can't find it. Wife and I go thru that all the thime with different things. Doesn't seem to matter what you're lookin for. I got my generator used from HD for $700. It was then selling for $1900 +/- new. It had 48 hrs on it. The sticker on it was $1100. I haggled with the manager some. Seems it had been there a couple weeks.
 
Great thread! We got hit by the same storm, but I was fortunate to keep power. Now Hurricaine Ike was a different story.:doh:

What I didn't realize, until watching the news this week, was the problems the utility companies were having from people back feeding the lines with improperly connected generators. Some of their techs have been seriously injured or killed because people weren't shutting off their main breakers to prevent the back feeding of electricity. Yowza!
 
Fortunately, we aren't on a well. So that was a good thing. Just no hot water. I like what Al has been posting about the tankless water heaters with no electricity required. Unfortantely our tankless does require electricity to light the propane.
If you turn off the TV's and such, you should be able to run the hot water tank.
Most are 4KW. Just shut off the TV's and such and it should be OK. Let it run for an hour or 2 then shut down and you'll have hot water for a day.

For those of you not on public sewer, do you have any pumps on your septic system (like I do)? If so, and you're pulling water into the house, don't forget that pump otherwise you're septic will overflow...
 
If you turn off the TV's and such, you should be able to run the hot water tank.
Most are 4KW. Just shut off the TV's and such and it should be OK. Let it run for an hour or 2 then shut down and you'll have hot water for a day.

For those of you not on public sewer, do you have any pumps on your septic system (like I do)? If so, and you're pulling water into the house, don't forget that pump otherwise you're septic will overflow...

Our water heater is tankless, it just uses electric to power the thermometer to know the temp and to light the propane. Does really use much power. Since it is tankless though you have no reserves.

We are fortune on the septic system, no pumps or aerators to run. Just the sump pump.
 
Thought I would compare usage. My Sister-in-Law's ex-husband was at the house Saturday to see his son (don't ask:unsure::yum:) but he was still without power. He bought a 5500 watt (same size as my diesel) generator at Lowes for $800. It was powered by a Briggs engine. In 8 hours, pulling less load than we were, he burned through 7 gallons of gas. Compared to ours in 12 hours, at a much heavier load, a little over 2 gallons of diesel. And the diesel generator was quieter - though not by much.

I know I paid a premium for a knock-off diesel, but I still couldn't believe the fuel usage difference. Granted, I know he can by a lot of fuel for $1200, but when it goes back to $4.59 a gallon, it wouldn't take too long to even out.:whistling:
 
I just about bought one of those $800 ones from Lowes or HD. Briggs and Stratton 5500. Lucky I didn't have to jump on that. I saw trucks leaving with 3 of them.

Where did you buy you diesel generator from?
 
It was also Lowes. I bought mine on Wednesday. The first day everyone was without power. That is all they had left at the time. When I was there yesterday, they still had 30 or so of the Briggs 5500 ones. That is the only one they had at that point.
 
I just about bought one of those $800 ones from Lowes or HD.
Is it just me or did something change or what? $800 for a 5500w Coleman (or similar) seems way too high. In that size generator, it should be around 10 cents/watt ($550).
 
Great thread! We got hit by the same storm, but I was fortunate to keep power. Now Hurricaine Ike was a different story.:doh:

What I didn't realize, until watching the news this week, was the problems the utility companies were having from people back feeding the lines with improperly connected generators. Some of their techs have been seriously injured or killed because people weren't shutting off their main breakers to prevent the back feeding of electricity. Yowza!

This is why the code requires a "break before make" transfer switch for generators.

Can you say "Criminally negligent homicide"?
 
Is it just me or did something change or what? $800 for a 5500w Coleman (or similar) seems way too high. In that size generator, it should be around 10 cents/watt ($550).

That is what I thought to BC. Me thinks they were getting every penny they could out of them. I'm going to check for a slightly used one next week. :D
 
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