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Hey Frank Sevin

muleman

muleman

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Does your company use those new glue in zip loc bag closers? They are the biggest PITA I have ever ran into. You open the bag and it takes minutes to get it lined up and rezipped. I end up putting a bag clip on one end to keep it together so it will close the second time. Wife just bought a big bag of M&M's and they have now gone to them.:hammer::hammer::hammer:
 
muleman said:
Does your company use those new glue in zip loc bag closers? They are the biggest PITA I have ever ran into. You open the bag and it takes minutes to get it lined up and rezipped. I end up putting a bag clip on one end to keep it together so it will close the second time. Wife just bought a big bag of M&M's and they have now gone to them.:hammer::hammer::hammer:
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Eyes going south on ya Mule? BTW, I've noticed the same thing. The latest was on a big bag of frozen vegetables from Costco. What a PITA to close. Makes you wonder who the testing firm was that checked this new zip lock closure system and gave them the good to go. :hammer:
 
muleman said:
Does your company use those new glue in zip loc bag closers? They are the biggest PITA I have ever ran into. You open the bag and it takes minutes to get it lined up and rezipped. I end up putting a bag clip on one end to keep it together so it will close the second time. Wife just bought a big bag of M&M's and they have now gone to them.:hammer::hammer::hammer:
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I would agree. The answer is no. More specificaly Hell NO!

That said I must plead MeaCulpa. At least to a small extent.

I did help develope an application of the damm things, on Horizontal wrapping machines, in an effort to please several Cereal companies who wanted to put small puzzles and multiple part games inside their products.

I find they either won't open or won't close myself and truly hate them on cheese slice packaging.

Walmart has developed a system that uses a flap with adhesive. PITA

I cannot stand it either.

I did develope a Fugitive Glue Flap apparatus, even began patent applications. But I found no client interested in the product. They all fell in love with the more expensive and far more complicated press and seal stuff of which you are complaining.

I still believe my concept was cheaper to adapt to existing packaging lines and lower in material cost. But I'm an engineer, not salesman. I just failed to close the sale.:doh:

So blame me if you like. Sorry.:sad:
 
I am not blaming you. If they would hot weld the ends after wrapping the product so the ends stay together it would not be as bad. The open ends let it separate and lining them up and getting them started sucks.:hammer:
 
muleman said:
I am not blaming you. If they would hot weld the ends after wrapping the product so the ends stay together it would not be as bad. The open ends let it separate and lining them up and getting them started sucks.:hammer:
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That is the fault of the equipment operator. The packages are sealed with heated tooling and the strip is supposed to be sealed with it.
But, if the heat is to high, the tooling gets covered in tars and must be cleaned. If it is too hot the cross seals may not look real purty.

Running cooler, he doesn't have to work so hard.

The real issue is that the cooler seals leak. Not so bad with M&M's but for some confections and snacks, that is a big no no. As for food safety it is always a big no no.

We vacuum pack every package we make and test samples all day, under water, for leaks. Along with cereals and snack foods, our stuff goes in fresh chicken, lunch meats, dog foods, and frozen turkey butts. Cannot be too careful.
 
rotfl..i hate those damn reseal ziplok on frozen veg bags

when I open them I end up ruining them. They're hard to open then come apart like nothing....I rip the damn bag.

What ever happend to folding the bag over and using a paperclip???
 
SShepherd said:
rotfl..i hate those damn reseal ziplok on frozen veg bags

when I open them I end up ruining them. They're hard to open then come apart like nothing....I rip the damn bag.

What ever happend to folding the bag over and using a paperclip???
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The Sham WOW guy talked me into a bunch of plastic clips. They work better than anything.

Except twist ties off of bread wrappers. And, they are free.
 
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