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Herd M96 Spreader

thcri

thcri

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For all of you guys that have the Herd M96 spreader this is just information to remember.

My PTO shart started slipping at the spreader end. So I find a allen screw that I tighten but yet it still slips. I take the allen screw out, aaahh another allen screw underneath. So just keep in mind there is two of them allen screws there.


murph
 
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Murph, can you provide a photo of where the second hex screw is located?:weneedpic

I think there are several of us here on the Forums who have this same spreader.
 
B_Skurka said:
Murph, can you provide a photo of where the second hex screw is located?:weneedpic

I think there are several of us here on the Forums who have this same spreader.
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Bob,

Sometimes I am just piss poor at explaining things. My wife will vouch for that. :confused2:

The screws are in the same socket, I edited everything to say allen screws. On on top of each other inline. In other words you have to take the first one all the way out to tighten the lower one, then put the first one back in and tighten.

I will see if I can get my book out and post a photo this evening.

murph
 
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This is a common method to keep the first one from coming loose. In your case, it didn't work. I don't have that problem, since I purchased the electric motor model. Herd said that the drive shaft, when cut down to fit the BX, was too short and would bind and jam/break. I am very happy with mine. Junk...
 
Junkman said:
This is a common method to keep the first one from coming loose. In your case, it didn't work. I don't have that problem, since I purchased the electric motor model. Herd said that the drive shaft, when cut down to fit the BX, was too short and would bind and jam/break. I am very happy with mine. Junk...
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I originally had a TC21D and had to cut the shaft down. Then when I bought my 29D the shaft was too short (story of my life:confused2:) so I had to buy a new one. My first shaft had two in it also. I looked at the web page and the drawing on the unit on the web page only shows one. So maybe they changed design.


murph
 
We would always double the Allan screws whenever there was room. It keeps the first one locked down, and the second one also keeps the threads clean and the head open. If you look at the screw, you will see that there are kerfs cut into the bottom that bite into the shaft. The second one might not have these biting kerfs. We always used the bitting ones at the shaft level, and the but ended ones on top. A drop of soft or medium set Loctite finished off the installation, depending on application. Junk...
 
I'll second the Loctite recommendation. The second screw doesn't work that great at holding something that vibrates in place.
 
Strange that you should mention vibration. I always wondered why they didn't balance rotating shafts on tractors like they do on cars. Has anyone ever tried to balance a tractor shaft????
 
Any winterizing needed for these spreaders?
I thought of spraying all moving parts with WD-40 ...but that's about it. Do you do anything to prerpare for storing your spreader?
 
The only part that can rust is the main housing. All the rest is galvanized or stainless steel. I would use a better oil spray than WD40, but if it is kept in a dry area, nothing is needed. Herd told me to just blow it out with air after use. Not to wash it, because that is worse than leaving it with fertilizer in it. I blow air into every crevice and hope that it will be enough. Not going to oil it either. Can't wait till next year when I can change that horrible red to Kubota orange.... Junk.
 
Junkman said:
Strange that you should mention vibration. I always wondered why they didn't balance rotating shafts on tractors like they do on cars. Has anyone ever tried to balance a tractor shaft????
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I had a car once that had a bad drive shaft and we could not get it balanced so had to replace, that was back in 75. What is the speed ratio of a drive shaft versus a PTO shaft? Does anyone know? Maybe if the PTO runs slower you could get by by not having it balanced so tight.
 
Keep them dry, I store mine in my boiler room where it typically is warmer and very dry both summer and winter.


murph
 
Doc said:
Any winterizing needed for these spreaders?
I thought of spraying all moving parts with WD-40 ...but that's about it. Do you do anything to prerpare for storing your spreader?
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I bought some Loctite Rust Preventer last year and sprayed it all over my tractor and implements (they all sit outside) It seemed to have worked pretty well. It is some Naptha based stuff that does a good job of coating the metal. I'm planning on doing it again this year but I need a dry day and we've got nothing but rain on the horizon for the next 10 days. I think I missed my window of opportunity but my tractor was too dirty before. At least the rain took care of the dirt.
 
PBinWA said:
I bought some Loctite Rust Preventer last year and sprayed it all over my tractor and implements (they all sit outside) It seemed to have worked pretty well. It is some Naptha based stuff that does a good job of coating the metal. I'm planning on doing it again this year but I need a dry day and we've got nothing but rain on the horizon for the next 10 days. I think I missed my window of opportunity but my tractor was too dirty before. At least the rain took care of the dirt.
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I coated mine with diesel a few days ago. Let you know next spring how well it protected it.

Jim
 
Diesel???? Never would have thought of that.
But thinking about it I think WD-40 will evaporate pretty quick. I have some Fogging oil left over from winterizing the boat, I think I'll spray down the spreader with that.
 
I wouldn't use diesel on a spreader, unless you want to got to the moon. Diesel and fertilizer is what they mix to make explosives. All joking aside, there is no need to put any preservative on the Herd spreader unless you plan on leaving it out in the rain. The galvanized metal doesn't rust and the stainless steel isn't going to rust, so that only leaves the bottom casting. If anything, give the casting a fresh coat of paint. If you oil the spreader, that oil is going to catch some fertilizer along with it, and that is going to be more of a hassle for you later on. Fertilizer will rust metal faster than just the dampness. Junk
 
My dad managed a fertilizer plant for over 30 years. He found th best thing was to leave it alone and keep it dry. He use to rent storage garages for the equipment and it turned out to be the worst thing he could do. He just left all of his equipment sit outside during the winter and that was the best.


murph
 
Ahhhh. Good info guys. I can do nothing. I'm good at that!! :D :thumb:
 
Junkman said:
I wouldn't use diesel on a spreader, unless you want to got to the moon. Diesel and fertilizer is what they mix to make explosives. All joking aside, there is no need to put any preservative on the Herd spreader unless you plan on leaving it out in the rain. The galvanized metal doesn't rust and the stainless steel isn't going to rust, so that only leaves the bottom casting. If anything, give the casting a fresh coat of paint. If you oil the spreader, that oil is going to catch some fertilizer along with it, and that is going to be more of a hassle for you later on. Fertilizer will rust metal faster than just the dampness. Junk
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I wish I had a Herd spreader. I have a 10 year old Agrex. Nothing is galvanized or stainless. most of it is painted plain steel and the spreader control section was cadmium plated. Now it is just rust to rust and will rust shut in less than a week if not protected with something.
 
I have a Sirex like that.... about 5 years old, and powder coated. The powder coating holds the rust in till the powder coat flakes off. I would have prefered paint.
 
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