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Grandparents, Lesbians and Facebook

FrancSevin

Proudly Deplorable
I am so sick of the drama and turmoil that "reality TV" and "social media" have brought to the lives of so many people. But it was always someone else. I don't even get on Face book, nor do I text. Life is too short to narcissistically put myself, family and friends ( and frankly the general public) thru the daily moment to moment stress of my psyche and bodily functions.

But, like I said, the drama was always to somebody else.


Let me set the scene. 14 years ago, My son was a Sonar Tech, Submariner, in the Northeast fleet out of New London CT. he met and married a local gal who was a serious diabetic with a young daughter. Ashley was a Spinal Bifida child, in a wheelchair. A real load of responsibility, cost,and emotional baggage for a young man to assume on an enlisted Seaman's pay.

But love triumphs all, right?

14 years and two children of their own later, Ashley, now 22 years old is 300 lbs in a bed she never leaves. A bed she soils daily because she is incontinent and too lazy to clean herself. So mom does it. Mom loves her daughter and does it. my son loves her mother and supports it. Ashley gets the best of everything in the household. Best room, biggest TV always via the sacrifices of the other children, Mom and dad and the Grand parents(that'd be me and my wife).

Her mom is poor as a church mouse with her own passel of parasite children. My son is an injured vet in a wheelchair. So it falls on my wife and me to help with moving, labor and expenses.


My wife and I have forgone our retirement plans for the most part, because we have had to invest the time and funds to help our kids. And Ashley has benefited, both materially and emotionally, from two Step Grandparents who have invested time, effort and emotion into helping create a true family in a wonderful home in a beautiful NE Connecticut community.

We are not complaining. It is what parents do for their kids.

Today, Ashley went for a job interview. The parents were so proud when the special Handicap bus left taking her for what appeared to be the perfect job for her limited skills and capabilities. The interview was to be over at 1:00 PM.. By 2:00 Ashley wasn't home. Perhaps the interview was going overtime? A good sign, maybe.

But Ashley wasn't answering her phone.

By 4:00 a worried father called the transport service. No answer. He went to their office. It was closed. nobody there and all the busses in the fenced off lot.

Still Ashley did not respond to her phone.

At 5:00 they called the police. It looked like and "Amber Alert" situation.
At 8:00 my wife got a call from one of Ashley's friends. She was OK. but, she and her Mom had "issues" She had run away!

Now I must remind you that Ashley is an incontinent, 300 lb youngster in a huge electric wheel chair. Where, or where, could she possibly run to?

My son took this as a queue to violate Ashley's privacy and search her laptop. Facebook entries revealed the story. Surprise,,, Surprise.

Ashley is getting married tomorrow to "Sarah" And she, Sarah, is accusing my son of molesting Ashley. Yes, Lesbians can marry in CT. But the accusations against her stepdad and mother is preposterous. Why the need to libel and hurt so many people.

Why do Gays and Lesbians have to be so intolerable? So vindictive and mean? Why do they have to hurt people. And why does this seems to be acceptable behavior of young lovers who are practicing "alternate" life styles.

My son is one of the most principled and moral men I know. His wife has devoted her life to caring for the child she bore with the burden of a devastating and handicapping disease. And he and his family have supported the effort without complaint.
I believe my wife and I will spend most of this week end (for which we had other plans) to once again invest time, energy, emotion and funds, to sort out a mess made by our decadent society. I figure this a three to five boxes of tissue crisis,, at a minimum!

This time it isn't somebody else, it is right here at home. Inside my family. And it sucks.
 
Franc, you just never know how close lightning will strike. Overall, IMO the internet is causing a fast growing wave of social problems in our country or perhaps the world. Fewer and fewer people want to have confrontations or solve problems face to face. They want to do it behind an electronic shield.
Like you, Linda nor I go on facebook and texting is at a bare minimum. Our forums are the only places we socialize electronically and not actually use our voices.
Mike
 
Take the opportunity to rid your son of this cancer. Encourage him to move on and turn the page to a better story.
 
i don't see how this will end well for anyone involved, but I've been wrong before. Ashley is and adult in the eyes of the law and can do what ever she wants(unless i missed something?), it is scary to think of what might happen, especially with the freaks out there on the web taking advantage of the weak,but what can you do? it sucks. do you even know who this Sarah is?
 
Frank, don't be afraid to say enough is enough. You and your wife have your own lives and survival to deal with. At our age it is right to look out for yourselves.
 
Franc, I wish the best for you and yours. Personally if I were in your Son's shoes I would deny that 300 pound ingrate any and all access to the material goods she abandoned when she left - especially the computer that she used to thoughtlessly destroy her family. I dare say she herself had no investment,either financially or labor , in those goods.

wayne
 
Franc, I wish the best for you and yours. Personally if I were in your Son's shoes I would deny that 300 pound ingrate any and all access to the material goods she abandoned when she left - especially the computer that she used to thoughtlessly destroy her family. I dare say she herself had no investment,either financially or labor , in those goods.

wayne
I agree 100% with baldy. I also think it is a safe bet that this 'relationship' will be short lived and she will soon be back expecting to be taken care of like nothing had happened. No way in hatties I would allow that to happen, no matter what. Such a sad situation. I feel for you, your wife and your son and his wife. Best wishes for a reasonable outcome but at this point it sure does not look good.
 
Thanks for the encouraging replies from good friends who's opinions I value.

I believe my son and his wife have , for the moment, chosen to move on. Ashley's room is being gutted today and all her possessions placed on the curb.
Except the incriminating laptop which contains most of the evidence of the conspiracy of her betrayal. The police have already shown up and asked my son to explain the accusations. This could get ugly.

We were going to the ranch this weekend, which desperately needs our attention. The truck and trailer are loaded with building supplies and ready to go but now we sit and wait for news. My son and his wife are both in wheel chairs, although they can walk with limitations. It may require me or my wife to go and complete the expulsion.

The emotional damage will go on for some time, especially for Ashley's mom. She and the other siblings will need support and grandma is the best medicine for all three.

I have to say, given her physical condition, I never thought Ashley would have a wedding to which we could attend. Sadly, the whole family would have been happy to be apart of her day today.

I wish her the best, but never care to have anything to do with her future.

Thanks again for the responses.
 
I can only imagine, Franc, that these are likely the most painful posts you have ever composed. The love of family runs deep; perhaps too deep in this situation. I feel fer ya', friend. What a mess.

OTOH, have you ever considered for a moment that Ashley may not actually be gay? Just a thought, but maybe after so many years of failure in the heterosexual world (due to a 300 lb. physical turn-off), her infatuation with "Sarah" is simply an over-reaction to a desperate need for physical love, a spiritual attachment, at this point from anyone and any way she can get it.

In any event, as a parent, I can barely grasp the suffering you must be enduring. Hang in. Go enjoy the ranch. Work off the frustration. The situation will work itself out. You'll always be there for the kids at the times when they need you.
 
I can only imagine, Franc, that these are likely the most painful posts you have ever composed. The love of family runs deep; perhaps too deep in this situation. I feel fer ya', friend. What a mess.

OTOH, have you ever considered for a moment that Ashley may not actually be gay? Just a thought, but maybe after so many years of failure in the heterosexual world (due to a 300 lb. physical turn-off), her infatuation with "Sarah" is simply an over-reaction to a desperate need for physical love, a spiritual attachment, at this point from anyone and any way she can get it.

In any event, as a parent, I can barely grasp the suffering you must be enduring. Hang in. Go enjoy the ranch. Work off the frustration. The situation will work itself out. You'll always be there for the kids at the times when they need you.

You haven't been to Connecticut for a while have you? The gay/lesbian culture is deeply embedded and episcopal there. But that is not the issue. The issue is the pain inflicted by that culture's apparent need to do harm to heterosexuals. With being gay so mainstreamed, there is simply no need to be vindictive.

Like I said, without even mentioning the same sex marriage aspect, her whole family would have been happy to share in her wedding day.

Her partner is most certainly gay. Why did they construct the incriminating, insulting, and family tie breaking episode that will forever scar those who loved her without judgment or reservation.

I see this punitive and vindictive narcissism frequently in Gays. This is the first time it has so directly effected my family.
 
I am having a Jerry Springer episode in my life right now as well...I don't have any answers for you but you have my sympathy.

Two old sayings of wisdom that would seem to apply.

What dose not kill you will only make you stronger.....and.... You can't fix stupid.

I hope your son and his remaining family are wise enough to turn and walk away.
 
Your handling this better than I could IMHO Franc. Time will work its way, and this too will change to something else. Live your life as best you can my friend. Work hard and play hard and pay little attention as possible. But be there if needed of course.

Best regards, Kirk
 
It's a sad and painful situation but I agree with the above. Ashley has made her choice and I would not let her come back home. She had bascially made your son and his wife her slaves. It's time for them and the other children to be able to live free of her demands. The same for the two of you. You are entitled to your retirement. Enjoy it.
 
As it is we would love to just walk away. But, as events unfold this weekend, we need to be available, at least for a phone call. No signal there at the ranch so going there is out this week end.

Next week I have to go as winter is coming and some chores have to be accomplished. But I will likely go alone as Cathy will hang here at home.

This event will take at least a week to cycle thru and congeal into whatever it is going to become. My son and his wife have only us for emergency moral and financial support right now. Once the storm has passed, we can all put it behind us.

Thanks again for everyone's comments and support.
 
Hang tough and be there for your son and daughter in law. I'll be sending good thoughts your way.
 
It gets worse today. Naked Pictures of our 13 year old posted on face book and the internet. The police came by today to inform my son that Ashley had pressed charges for the molestation/rape.

He showed the police the child porn in which she had engaged her sister. And her entrapment "plan" to have him molest her at the race track. The police now have the computer.

FBI is involved tangentially at this point. One of the men is in another state. DFS has inspected the house and investigated the charges.

Had my 13 year old not come forward today and explained her involvement, my son would be in jail.

Our cell phones are on constant charge as we have not stopped communicating for 48 hours straight. Cathy is packed and ready to fly out there.

This is gonna leave a mark.
 
Good Lord, Franc, this must seem a dream ... er, nightmare ... from which you cannot awake. What a mess.

This "Sarah" woman must really have a hold on Ashley, likely filling her head with vindictive BS. Have you had any contact with her? Motives? How did your 13 year-old get involved?

Stepchildren are almost always a problem (BTDT), but this really sux.

Keep your son safe. Prayers for you and Kathy's sanity.
 
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I'm at a loss for words and can only send my support and sympathy. Its impossible to imagine the nightmare through which you and your family are living.
 
OH my gosh.

I would get angry as heck and make sure that everyone (law wise) knew of the plot to smear... don't stop screaming. Ashley should never be forgiven once this is over with.. she has twisted and shook this crap to the point that the law is now involved, she pressed charges.

Go to the sink and wash your hands of her and Sarah... forever. Let them know that they are out of the family. Why allow anyone to lie and get by with what they have created apologize and then get over it. This is serious. Very serious.

Once innocence is proven.. please be sure to counter sue. Let Ashley know now that you intend to do this, and that you and your family will leave no stone unturned. This has the ability to put your son in jail, do not show her any mercy.

Karma is going to be wonderful one day soon, I am sure of that... please do not shrug this off after innocence is proven. Darn ingrate.
 
Was thinking about this...

If your son does not fight this tooth and nail, he could be labeled a sexual predator or molester and that label would prevent him contact with his minor children, and in the future, grand children.

I hope he fights this with every ounce of blood in his body.

The more I think about it, the madder I get... I so hate it when people lie and create drama needlessly.

Oh the names I would like to call those two!
 
OH my gosh.

I would get angry as heck and make sure that everyone (law wise) knew of the plot to smear... don't stop screaming. Ashley should never be forgiven once this is over with.. she has twisted and shook this crap to the point that the law is now involved, she pressed charges.

Go to the sink and wash your hands of her and Sarah... forever. Let them know that they are out of the family. Why allow anyone to lie and get by with what they have created apologize and then get over it. This is serious. Very serious.

Once innocence is proven.. please be sure to counter sue. Let Ashley know now that you intend to do this, and that you and your family will leave no stone unturned. This has the ability to put your son in jail, do not show her any mercy.

Karma is going to be wonderful one day soon, I am sure of that... please do not shrug this off after innocence is proven. Darn ingrate.

A counter suit would yield nothing but an extension of pain for the family. According to one LEO, the only reason Ashley would not do jail time is because she is in a wheel chair. She will become a ward of the state. And likely live the rest of her life in a instituion of some kind.

She cannot re-enter the famly.

As for the other Perpetrators, they will have serious charges being filed. And they may suffer civil lawsuits as well. However, all depends on the approach taken by DFS which can sometimes surprise you with their actions.


We shall see as this unfolds
 
Counter sue. Now that is a great idea. It just might put an end to the whole thing but what if it backfires? She could claim that this is an attempt to silence her and prevent her from finally getting justice. What a mess! :sad:
 
Counter sue. Now that is a great idea. It just might put an end to the whole thing but what if it backfires? She could claim that this is an attempt to silence her and prevent her from finally getting justice. What a mess! :sad:

Right now we are dealing with a mind that has lost it's grip on reality. Counter suit would not change a thing in the mess.
Any monies Ashley has, beyond her Disability stipend, are from her parents and grand parents.

Why is everyone in America so quick to yell for a suit? Especially in this case where Ashley has no assets. Sarah might, but she is not making any accusations.
What damages could be collected? What is to be gained?

Prosecution for false witness, filing a false report to the police, is the answer. Ashley broke the law and there is also child porn to which she is a perpetrator or accessory.
 
It's human nature to want to "get even" with people who have wronged us instead of keeping a cool head, praying about it and trying to do what is right and just for all involved no matter our feelings.

The only advice that I can offer is to pray about it and look to the Good Book for your answers, Franc. It sounds as though it is a very complicated situation. I wish you all the best and I'll be keeping you and your family in my prayers.
 
Thnks Leni and Mama. Your advice is well measured.

The next few months are about healing, not revenge.
 
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Franc we have more in common in ways that i never imagined...as parents we just fall in love with our kids and sadly some times you end up not liking them very much but the love never leaves....same goes for grankids.

You speak of re-vamping bedrooms and trying to move on and i endorse this as it does help...just takes more than a lick of paint to fix a broken heart but it does help distracting yourself.

All the best for the future as i know for sure things get worse before they get better....but they do get better so never give up.:wink:
 
Thanks Galvi.

Everyday has a new wrinkle, a new source of angst and pain.

The DIL has hit the pause button on any changes. She just cannot let go. At thesame time she demands no interference. This would be fine excpt forthe other two kids who are now basicaly abandoned be their mother.

Sadly, they hurt too. But I sense she doesn't yet get that.

Grandma's bags are packed, waiting for the quene to go.
 
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