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Genetically Modified Corn causes tumors, cancer in tests.

Melensdad

Melensdad

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Well, this is disturbing. They've done a comprehensive study of Roundup Ready GM corn and it caused tumours and early death in the test subjects. Unlike the 90 day study the feds required, (and only of one component) this study was done as a life span study and the results weren't pretty. Needless to say, the farm lobby will all about shutting this this news up. That Roundup Ready corn is in all sorts of stuff in our food chain. It's practically inescapable. And the Roundup is getting into our water supplies, too.

I think I'll take weeds in the fields and slightly higher prices, rather than tumours and death.

LONDON, Sept. 19, 2012: First Peer Reviewed Lifetime Feeding Trial Finds "Safe" Levels Of GM Maize And Roundup Can Cause Tumors And Multiple Organ Damage | PRNewswire | Rock Hill Herald Online

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EXCLUSIF. Oui, les OGM sont des poisons ! - Le Nouvel Observateur
 
Damn, I love corn. I'd prefer the weeds too after reading that. :( Organic corn? I suppose some is out there but I've never noticed any.
 
Nothing like good old Monsanto to kill us all to make a buck. So lets disband the EPA, FDA and others who's job it is to stop this crap. I wonder how much many have eaten of the this stuff already.
 
joec said:
Nothing like good old Monsanto to kill us all to make a buck. So lets disband the EPA, FDA and others who's job it is to stop this crap. I wonder how much many have eaten of the this stuff already.
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Hey JoeC,,,,What have they done so far to "stop this crap?"

Seems Monsanto ADM and others have gotten theiir way so far. Just seeing those pictures should get the stuff off the market. Assuming the Market was free to access.

But Proles don't really care. they just want their nachos chips, Cheese and Pork Steaks. And ETHANOL in their tanks.
 
joec said:
Nothing like good old Monsanto to kill us all to make a buck. So lets disband the EPA, FDA and others who's job it is to stop this crap. I wonder how much many have eaten of the this stuff already.
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Good call but is has become the industry standard For those who are to be regulated to head the offices of regulator...and so it goes...

As they say in D.C., money talks a bullshit walks...You will find Monsanto cronies I dare say in all branches of the Gov. and regulators.

Unlike 96% of other farmers I refrain from Round Up, and it's use. Recently I went to a Practical Farmers of Iowa workshop and found myself amongnst about 150 organic growers. New ideas and tools for me to ponder. Some guys I know would like to see me take the jump to the other side. I need to get some better control of some weeds however, before I do any such thing. I know I would get some help and experiance if I did go the organic route. It takes three years pesticide free to be certified on a piece of land.

A semi retired corn breeder told us he could get within about 10-15% of Monsanto's best corn yeilds. But his corn would have 30% more protein per acer than the Monsanto corn. If your using corn for food to anything animal or human, I think this is pretty big.....Wouldn't you think such corn free of GMO and 30+ % higher in protein would be worth more wouldn't you?? I could grow this corn tomarrow but couldn't sell it as organic.

This whole GMO thing has scared the sh#* out of me for years now. I always wondered if it would come crashing down hard around us. That is why I have stayed away. To good to be true usually is....:wink:

Regards, Kirk
 
300 H and H said:
Good call but is has become the industry standard For those who are to be regulated to head the offices of regulator...and so it goes...

As they say in D.C., money talks a bullshit walks...You will find Monsanto cronies I dare say in all branches of the Gov. and regulators.

Unlike 96% of other farmers I refrain from Round Up, and it's use. Recently I went to a Practical Farmers of Iowa workshop and found myself amongnst about 150 organic growers. New ideas and tools for me to ponder. Some guys I know would like to see me take the jump to the other side. I need to get some better control of some weeds however, before I do any such thing. I know I would get some help and experiance if I did go the organic route. It takes three years pesticide free to be certified on a piece of land.

A semi retired corn breeder told us he could get within about 10-15% of Monsanto's best corn yeilds. But his corn would have 30% more protein per acer than the Monsanto corn. If your using corn for food to anything animal or human, I think this is pretty big.....Wouldn't you think such corn free of GMO and 30+ % higher in protein would be worth more wouldn't you?? I could grow this corn tomarrow but couldn't sell it as organic.

This whole GMO thing has scared the sh#* out of me for years now. I always wondered if it would come crashing down hard around us. That is why I have stayed away. To good to be true usually is....:wink:

Regards, Kirk
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Good for you Kirk.:applause:
 
If the MSM would ever get out of the politician/corporate pockets and do their job farmers who grow with heirloom seeds and chemical free would find a greater demand for their product. Cost for going back to tillage farming are higher but a superior product that is pesticide/herbicide free could be marketed even at a higher price. There are some horror stories in the pork industry already from gmo feed. They have to ration the % to avoid mutants and aborted litters yet we feed it to humans cause it meets government standards. They argue it is from factory farming on large operations but the common denominator is the GMO grains in the feed. If folks knew what gets ground into bulk feed they would not want the finish product to eat. Sadly guys like Kirk and his neighbors are a small % with a small voice in regulatory practices. The big companies wield a powerful and unfair lobby in winning approval of best practices for feedstocks and productions.Consumer demand for the natural product from the smaller farmers is the only thing that will turn it around. This is a case of putting your money behind your cause and buying direct from the little guys. If they have a market and can operate profitably they can supply safe foodstuffs. and their numbers will grow. Organic dairy operations are proof of the business plan with a 3-5 year period to achieve full organic certification. Then they can reap the profit of fair priced natural products and afford to sustain the cycle.
 
There has been rumors, mostly for Europe, that RR corn is not a good thing for feeding animals. The original testing done was not done at 100% RR cornin the feed it was done with 40% RR corn in feed to animals, and every thing seemed fine. But here in the US we have never tested it at 100% in a feed ration. Much less testing in humans. I read that 80% of us have detectable amounts of round up in our urine, for christ's sake....:hammer:

I believe in consumer choice, and your not getting an oportunity to have that with RR corn, soy or potato's . We as farmers want labling of food products that contain GMO. But Monsanto and others clearly don't want that. Hell they don't even want you to know there is a choice to be made. This is why they INSIST on no lables on GMO foods. They know the consumer will not buy it, even at a reduced price. No one I have ever asked would knowingly eat this stuff. Now you do it every day without knowing it. Potato's to corn it's all GMO now. Trader Joe's and Whole Foods would be a good choice. Des Moines just opened our first Iowa Whole Foods store recently. After harvest I will be going to visit....

I and many others have complained to USDA about this situation. As time goes buy it is slowly being swept "under the rug" and is largely no longer on the consumers radar screen. After all this all started in 1996, and that was some time ago. We also ate margerine loaded with trans fats for 40 years thinking it healthier that butter. WRONG....

Farmers are such a small number of people, we have no clout. But the consumer on the other hand has the $ and the clout to do some thing about it. I beleive EPA is in a 3 year fact finding effort with round up crops. At the end of that time, they will rule on if it should be used in crop production at all. I suggest if you care to find this on the internet. Share your thoughts with EPA on this... I cann't think of anything I would like to bring here and share more, but I am in the middle of harvest. Today we are starting the non GMO soybeans....I haven't the time to find it, sorry.

For years now I have heald the idea that if the general public really understood what is happening with the food cahin, they would be pissed. I am slowly finding out how right I am about that. Please feel free to jump in this thread and share how you feel about genetically modified crops, and YOUR food....I want to know....:whistling:

http://archive.truthout.org/war-ove...ects-superweeds-and-science-intimidation64915

Regards, Kirk
 
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:smile:Kirk, I noticed the other day everytime I pee in the woods all the green stuff dies. Could that be the round up in my urine?
 
Not roundup, it is found in part per billion, far lower than for the plant killing effect...

Surprised no one seems to care to share their thoughts and feelings about GMO in our food stream. Maybe I am alone or with only a few, who do. I am genuinly curious and wondering if I am out on a limb on this....:w00t2:

I hold no grudge if you reply that you think GMO is nessary to feed the world. This is the argument I am hearing from some. I can respect that.

Regards, Kirk
 
Nope, I'm 100% behind you Kirk. Just don't know enough about it to speak intellegently. Sorry.
 
mak2 said:
:smile:Kirk, I noticed the other day everytime I pee in the woods all the green stuff dies. Could that be the round up in my urine?
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Nope, you have the super clap from the PI .... No worries, you won't die from it , but your pecker will fall off .
It's hardly noticeable in liberals .:yum:
 
Some things are worse than dying, but dont worry about my stuff, it would take a chainsaw to...
 
OH and sorry for getting off topic Kirk. I think we know round up ready corn does a lot of benefit by increased production. therefor a least some risk should exist before banning it. This study seems to show that risk.
 
That is OK Mak,:smile:

Round up ready corn doesn't make more production, it just makes producing much easier for the farmer. The farmer who uses it is the ONLY one who benifits besides Monsanto. This tech has no possible positive for the consumer. It is why farm size has exploded in the last ten years. Without it it is much more challenging to farm large scale.
With it you can stop using a rotary hoe and row crop cultivator. Farms who use it sit on thier asses all summer long...

The fact is Round Up is on it's last legs IMHO. It isn't killing weeds like it used to. Mother nature is a tough old lass. She is able to make sure that none of her creations isn't able to adapt to what we throw at her. They mutate and change, and with Round Up it has taken 15 years for them to mutate to a plant that is resistant. Problem is without it, These super large farmers are gong to be lost as to how to manage their weeds. Now Monsanto and others are genetically engineering crops for 2,4,D resistance.... 2,4,D is half of what made up 2,4,5,T or commonly known as "Agent Orange" from the Viet Nam era. Makes ya feel all fuzzie inside doesn't it??:doh::sad:

The winds of change are blowing, just not sure they are in the right direction....

Regards, Kirk
 
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Yet some folks out there argue this is the only way to grow enough food for everyone on the planet.. Well maybe if we dont use corn in EVERYTHING we wouldn't need so much of it..



Doc said:
Damn, I love corn. I'd prefer the weeds too after reading that. :( Organic corn? I suppose some is out there but I've never noticed any.
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:brows: I grow it.. wife and i can 80 half quart jars each year.
 
Garmins_Dad said:
Yet some folks out there argue this is the only way to grow enough food for everyone on the planet.. Well maybe if we dont use corn in EVERYTHING we wouldn't need so much of it..





:brows: I grow it.. wife and i can 80 half quart jars each year.
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What we are talking about is dent corn, not sweet corn. Big difference....And a common mistake as well...

Dent corn is what is fed to livestock....Only about 2% is used in human foods....

We cann't grow enough for the planet, This argument has been used against farmers for at least 2 generations. Truth be told, we cann't afford it. We cannot give it away, as we once did. Prices are too high for the poor, and always have been. Corn has too much value, and always will, unlesss we get our fiscal house in order and our debt cleaned up....Debt relief for others is something that is foolish to do, given our current situation....Don't you think?

Not to mention dependancy will be established and they come to expect a hand out. Maybe they should control their birth rate, rather than relie on a free be's....

Regards, Kirk
 
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Came across this on another site. Seems the French want to ban it also.

Europe-wide ban on Monsanto GM corn imminent in wake of French study linking it to cancer

Thursday, October 04, 2012 by: Ethan A. Huff, staff writer

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/037424_Mo...#ixzz28Ru5D3vb


(NaturalNews) Pending affirmation by its national health agency, France is expected to call for an official ban on Monsanto's genetically-modified (GM) corn very soon "at a European level," according to the French news source RFI. Following the recent release of a University of Caen study that found a link between the "Frankencorn" and the development of severe tumors in rats, French officials have been urging a Europe-wide ban on both the cultivation and import of the GM corn, which was never proven safe in the first place prior to its commercial release.

The study, which was published in the peer-reviewed journal Food and Chemical Toxicology, revealed for the first time that rats fed Monsanto's NK603 GM corn treated with Roundup (glyphosate) herbicide for longer than 90 days developed deadly tumors at a much higher, and much quicker, rate than rats not exposed to these products. Similar health consequences were observed in rats fed NK603 GM corn without Roundup, as well as in rats exposed to just Roundup, revealing more about the true toxicity of these two highly-pervasive food technologies.

What the study suggests, in other words, is that GMOs are far from innocuous, and that they pose some very serious health threats when consumed for long periods of time. Since there have never been any other long-term studies on the safety of GMOs -- and definitely none that have ever proven them to be safe -- it makes logical and scientific sense to adopt the precautionary principle in light of the available evidence, which is heavily stacked against the continued purveyance of GMOs.

"'Several animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with GMO food,' including infertility, immune problems, accelerated aging, faulty insulin regulation, and changes in major organs and the gastrointestinal system," says the Institute for Responsible Technology (IRT). "The AAEM (American Academy of Emergency Medicine) asked physicians to advise patients to avoid GM foods."

And this latest study out of France only affirms what groups like IRT have been warning about for years -- that GMOs are not safe, that independent research clearly illustrates their potential health risks, and that no long-term safety studies have ever definitively proven that GMO consumption is safe or beneficial to human health.

"While previous studies have usually lasted only about three months, Seralini's (French GMO study) lasted two years, the average rat's lifespan, and the illnesses developed later in the period covered," says RFI.

Sources for this article include:

http://www.english.rfi.fr

http://www.naturalnews.com

http://www.responsibletechnology.org/gmo-dangers

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/037424_Mo...#ixzz28RtvW4SH​
 
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