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Differential Oil for Bombardier SWs (and other)

benz9

benz9

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Hey crew,
Sorry to beat a dead horse here, but I read most of the posts on this issue last night, came to the understanding that TDH fluid is what is best, and that Caterpillar TO-4 is by far the best of all the TDH fluids. I inquired about price and got 90$CDN / 5gallon pail. Does that sound normal? The dollar in Canada is about 0.96 cents now, so not much difference there. Just checking before I drop a brown (100$ bills are brown in Canada for those who didn't know) for a bucket of oil. Thanks in advance.

benz9:wink:
 
The stuff has definitely gone up,used to get it from Brisson(case), but now I go to Walmart , 40.00 plus tax, you have to draw the line somewhere.( My two cents.)
J5 Bombardier
 
J5B, I agree with you somewhat. I saw what looks to be the same stuff at Canadian Tire for 44$ + tax. But the guy at Cat says that whenever they have a machine that doesn't turn well, or makes a lot of noise when turning, they put this stuff in, and in most cases, fixes the problem??? He also said you get what you pay for (and he's not a salesman, he's my Bro in law). When I replaced my sprocket a couple of weeks back, the shtuff (and no, that's not a typo) that came out from the bolt holes was beige. In my experience, that's called water contamination. I've flushed it twice now and it steers just nice, but I only use mine to plow. If I can get some nice rubber to redo my tracks (don't want to venture too far from home with old tracks) then I might think of going for a ride in the woods. Rubber from Prinoth is at 495$ X 4 to redo both sides. I know there's gotta be a cheaper solution. Looking at municipal garage that might be throwing out old Camoplast SW UniTracks... That would be sweet, but troublesome to put on and take off. I've followed J5B's example and (it was already there, just had rusted bolts) spliced the track. It's a lot easier to remove and put back on now, plus galvanized bolts and nuts shouldn't rust. So back to oil, is there a big difference between Cat/Case TDH or the stuff you buy at the local HW store (or Walmart in J5B's case)?

benz saying Woo Hoo, it's snowing!!!:clap:
 
Changed the diff oil in my J5 about a year ago before I found the site, and used the 90 weight speced in the manual ($40 wallmart). No problems to date with turning, so linings couldn't have gone too soft.
 
Cat oil (not snake)

Don't really know what was in my differential (though I suspect it was adulterated 90w), but the warmer it got, the worse the turning.
I refilled with the Cat oil, and even with one nearly worn out brake band, turning is much improved.
Perhaps you can buy a few gallons from a local logging contractor? If memory serves, you need about 2.5.
(I think I paid around $16/gal).

Look for a secondary drain plug to the side and below the pinion shaft. I think there will be at least another 8oz in there.
 
benz 9, where did you pickup your replacement sprocket ? As for oil a brand name like Cat I'm sure it's great stuff.
I bought 85 feet of 4ply 440-5 1/2 in for around 750.00 5yrs ago, I thought it was kind of steep at the time.
Municipal wise, I know city of Ottawa after many years without sw48's ,now has 3 or 4 on lease, saw a new prinoth model at Swansea garage.
J5 Bombardier
 
Sprocket picked up at Planord, in Laval, they are the exclusive distributor of OEM Prinoth/Bombardier parts in Quebec. Set me back about 350$ with tax, but the seller of my machine took that off the price since (see the pic) one of the sprockets was missing 4 teeth. Boggie gave me about the same price without shipping, so went local on that one. Asked Planord about the rubber bands, said they were obsolete, but to go look at the factory just in their back yard, see here: http://www.nuera-transport.com/en/industrial/ Haven't called them yet, but will this summer (rebuilding tracks is a summer job, right?) Here in Gatineau/Buckingham, there are 6 SW-48s running around doing the sidewalks everytime it snow. They seem to be all Bombardier with the Perkins diesel engine and camoplast endless tracks (BTW are 1900$ a pop, so +/- 4G$ for a set:sad:. These are the ones I want to get a hold of when they change them. The pair only weights 800lbs (or 400lbs each) and that sounds a lot lighter than the version we have. Dude at Planord said we needed a part on the belt tensionner if we installed these tracks??? When I saw the price, I kinda wasn't paying attention to him anymore. I'll try and scan the brochure I got on these tracks. J5B, I still think your way of de-tracking is the best, it's the way we did it in the army with the tanks on tracks that were 10 times heavier and we managed to put them back on with a 3 man crew (one in the drivers seat I might add). When I removed the cone housing the second time to put the gasket that I forgot the first time (oops), took me 4 h to de-track, remove, clean and warm up, apply gasket, retap 5 of the bolt holes, reinstall cone housing, retrack and retension by myself! Couldn't have done it with endless tracks for sure. Thanks for the info, if need be, I'll call you on your supplier of rubber later next season :brows:. Gotta get me one of those Great White North smileys...
Take off, hosers...:yum: Still snowing here, 20 cm in the last 48h:clap:.
 
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