Briggs & Stratton going to china!

[rugerman]

Just read a article in the local paper that says that B&S is going to move its production line for small motors & generators to china due to lack of profit, loss of at least 250 jobs here. Big companies don't give a dam about their employees anymore, they work them part time so they don't get benefits then expect them to work their asses off to cover short falls in product due to problems in supply or seasonal increases and when the amount of goods gets too high they shut down until they reach a level that they want. No back up, no stockpile of goods, when you run out just make the folks work harder & faster then when the level is back up close down til they need more goods. Sounds to me like the bean counters need to get a real job and try to keep up with their stupid time tables. Once upon a time if you needed a part for your car you could go to the dealer and they had the part, now you have to order it & wait for it to be shipped because the dealer doesn't stock hardly anything anymore. Just pisses me off!

 

[FrancSevin]

Just read a article in the local paper that says that B&S is going to move its production line for small motors & generators to china due to lack of profit, loss of at least 250 jobs here. Big companies don't give a dam about their employees anymore, they work them part time so they don't get benefits then expect them to work their asses off to cover short falls in product due to problems in supply or seasonal increases and when the amount of goods gets too high they shut down until they reach a level that they want. No back up, no stockpile of goods, when you run out just make the folks work harder & faster then when the level is back up close down til they need more goods. Sounds to me like the bean counters need to get a real job and try to keep up with their stupid time tables. Once upon a time if you needed a part for your car you could go to the dealer and they had the part, now you have to order it & wait for it to be shipped because the dealer doesn't stock hardly anything anymore. Just pisses me off!

More going on than the Bean counters at B&S here pal. I happen to know that B&S has tried hard to keep that plant here in the states. My question here is "why do manufacturing operators have to spend so much time and resources, fighting to keep their operations here in the States?"

businesses should worry about business operations, P&L and growth, not surviving the regulatory State.

China does not impose on it's factory operators the sensless expenses, regulations and taxes that we place on them here.

No one likes to move a facility that is operatinal, especialy if it has a cohesive and trained working team. And is profitable.

Manufacturing operators here in the states are frustrated by the governments, local, State and federal, continual imposition on them while demanding that they somehow compete anyway. No one WANTS to lay off workers. It is a sad choice that has to be made or the company dies. Eventualy most die anyways.

Politicians and the press then jump in and vilify the owners for not caring. Bullshit!

When we loose the competitive race it hurts everyone on the team from the factory floor trainie to the CEO.

I know, I am there right now.

With fifty people on my payroll in 2009 we are now down to 23. At some point I could move the plant to Mexico where my prices would be more competitive and costs and regulations would be far less. Instead, we have chosen to do the so-called caring thing, Which mens our operations will eventualy fail. We are hanging in and will go down with the ship and crew, fighting the whole way.

But eventualy, we will sell out.

When it finaly closes, the factory and production equipment will all be sold and go to China or Mexico. Anyone who suggests that I don't care can Kiss My Ass.

BTW,most companies do not keep inventories because of the costs. Any Bank audit will force them to cut "inventory" costs or they will call the loans. Banks tell their customers how to run their businesses. Because,,,,,,Government regulators tell Banks how to run their loans. Been there, done that

Little banks are flexible, big banks (the ones we bailed out) are not. The little banks are losing ground to the Big ones.

 

[jimbo]

More going on than the Bean counters at B&S here pal. I happen to know that B&S has tried hard to keep that plant here in the states. My question here is "why do manufacturing operators have to spend so much time and resources, fighting to keep their operations here in the States?"

businesses should worry about business operations, P&L and growth, not surviving the regulatory State.

China does not impose on it's factory operators the sensless expenses, regulations and taxes that we place on them here.

No one likes to move a facility that is operatinal, especialy if it has a cohesive and trained working team. And is profitable.

Manufacturing operators here in the states are frustrated by the governments, local, State and federal, continual imposition on them while demanding that they somehow compete anyway. No one WANTS to lay off workers. It is a sad choice that has to be made or the company dies. Eventualy most die anyways.

Politicians and the press then jump in and vilify the owners for not caring. Bullshit!

When we loose the competitive race it hurts everyone on the team from the factory floor trainie to the CEO.

I know, I am there right now.

With fifty people on my payroll in 2009 we are now down to 23. At some point I could move the plant to Mexico where my prices would be more competitive and costs and regulations would be far less. Instead, we have chosen to do the so-called caring thing, Which mens our operations will eventualy fail. We are hanging in and will go down with the ship and crew, fighting the whole way.

But eventualy, we will sell out.

When it finaly closes, the factory and production equipment will all be sold and go to China or Mexico. Anyone who suggests that I don't care can Kiss My Ass.

BTW,most companies do not keep inventories because of the costs. Any Bank audit will force them to cut "inventory" costs or they will call the loans. Banks tell their customers how to run their businesses. Because,,,,,,Government regulators tell Banks how to run their loans. Been there, done that

Little banks are flexible, big banks (the ones we bailed out) are not. The little banks are losing ground to the Big ones.

Very, very, well said.

 

[thcri]

Once upon a time if you needed a part for your car you could go to the dealer and they had the part, now you have to order it & wait for it to be shipped because the dealer doesn't stock hardly anything anymore. Just pisses me off!

Once upon a time we weren't global. Today we are and most don't understand that business can't survive the way we did along time ago. B&S is fighting that China $5.00 dollar an hour wages with employees that will run circles around most here in the US. And the general public here in the States when you put the two products side by side will buy the cheaper of the two products. B & S moves or closes its door. As for inventory that is controlled and stockpiles that is normal business expense today. Part of my P & L is scored on inventory turns which allows me to borrow more money.

 

[BigAl]

I don't have a dog in this fight , but I do have a question . How much of their( B&D) decision is based on demands put on the company by the Labor Unions ?

It seems like they are demanding more and more for less and less production . More than likely the blame should also be put more on the stock owners who demand a profit each quarter on their stocks .

 

[muleman]

How about all the enviromental rules for engine emissions and factories. Escalating electrical costs and burdensome tax laws and of course Obummercare looming on the horizon.

 

[FrancSevin]

I don't have a dog in this fight , but I do have a question . How much of their( B&D) decision is based on demands put on the company by the Labor Unions ?

It seems like they are demanding more and more for less and less production . More than likely the blame should also be put more on the stock owners who demand a profit each quarter on their stocks .

I don't mean to insult anyone here but, Stock holders expect a profit.

They have every right to do so.

THAT IS WHY THEY BOUGHT THE STOCK


Am I the only one getting tired of explaining this?

 

[thcri]

THAT IS WHY THEY BOUGHT THE STOCK


Am I the only one getting tired of explaining this?

I think Al is being ficicious. (sp)

 

[AAUTOFAB1]

I think people may finally be understanding that large company's are not in the business to create or save jobs, they are in business to make money. if you force a business to pay more in taxes and burden them with regulations that they can avoid just by moving , they will go elsewhere. this is America and they have the right to leave if they want, in fact we all have the right to leave.just like our right to vote, if you vote for large Government and burdensome regulation don't bitch about how big company's are moving out of the country. once all the big company's are gone the government will come after the small ones,and when they come for mine and make it any harder for me to make an honest living,i will close my doors and i may just move some where else to retire.

 

[FrancSevin]

I think Al is being ficicious. (sp)

Then he should have put an atomaton on it.

I cannot tellyou how many people with whom I must defend the free enterpise system motivation of profit.

My apologies if i over reacted but lately,,,,

 

[thcri]

Then he should have put an atomaton on it.

I cannot tellyou how many people with whom I must defend the free enterpise system motivation of profit.

My apologies if i over reacted but lately,,,,

He might have put an automaton on it. The problem is if like me his hands don't listen to his brain.

But back to your point you are right. Making or hearing about profit now days is like a swear word. If you do your screwing your employees and most don't understand what this global economy is doing to the US with all the regulations and higher wages than the competition.

 

[FrancSevin]

He might have put an automaton on it. The problem is if like me his hands don't listen to his brain.

But back to your point you are right. Making or hearing about profit now days is like a swear word. If you do your screwing your employees and most don't understand what this global economy is doing to the US with all the regulations and higher wages than the competition.

My apologies to bigAl


Whenever an employer must cut labor, it is always to enrich himself right? And never because the tree must be trimmed during a drought tosurvive and bear fruit next season.


Bain Capital created or saved more jobs than it cut yet the left only takes Romney to task for the bold decision he made to cut costs and save the tree. Of course we never hear the math on GM and what was cut to save Government Motors.


Dealership employees alone added into the thousands. To this day no one can explain how that cut operating costs or helped car sales to cut down the number of individualy capitalized self funded, self sustaining retail outlets.


I'm sure it sounded good over a late' in the faculty lounge at Havard Law school.

 

[Av8r3400]

The former Wisconsin governor's administration (Jim Doyl) did everything he could to crucify businesses here. Ne nearly drove out Harley-Davidson and Mercury Marine in addition to the irreparable damage done to B&S.

Our current Governor, Scott Walker (if he survives the communist sponsored, baseless recalls) is doing everything possible to repair Wisconsin's business climate.