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Bering Air C-208 Crash in Icing Conditions NTSB Prelim Report

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NTSB: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/P...Blancolirio: • Bering Air C-208EX Missing Nome AK 6 ...
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DDS AKA Don Ericson's plane crash NTSB preliminary report. 1,200 lbs. over weight at takeoff and still 800 lbs heavy after fuel burn to the point the aircraft came off auto pilot and shortly thereafter control was lost by the pilot.

Mods if there is a more appropriate place.... :unsure:
 
As advanced as computer systems are today, you would think the plane would know if it’s overweight or unbalanced and refuse to take off. Cranes that lift heavy objects have been set up this way for more tha 20 years to avoid tip over. Not to relive the pilot of his responsibilities, but people make mistakes and other people die as a result. Redundancy for safety in an aircraft isn’t a bad thing.
 
Where would to put the strain devices? On every aircraft? The guy was overweight by something like 20%. He knew it. If there was an instrument on the dash indicating it, he'd probably still go ahead and fly.
Just because one is issued a license didn't mean you are competent.
 
waybomb said:
Where would to put the strain devices? On every aircraft? The guy was overweight by something like 20%. He knew it. If there was an instrument on the dash indicating it, he'd probably still go ahead and fly.
Just because one is issued a license didn't mean you are competent.
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They would be load cells distributed in the correct locations, the pilot wouldn’t take off anyway because the plane would not allow it, just like a crane. It could even be set up to report it to the FAA if he tried anyway. That’s why it’s that way on cranes and Trucks have governors, because people use bad judgment and get other people killed.
 
You can't outsmart every idiot. The cost would be outlandish. I can't agree with this one. Where do you start and stop? Retrofit every GA aircraft every commercial airliner, passenger airliner, helo, etc? Because of one w&b incident?
Self preservation should have been more powerful for this joc.
 
For about $5K you can get a three-point scale system built into the wheel bearing spindles. We use such a set up at harvest on an auger wagon each harvest to build an inventory of each bin. Since the strain gauges are inside the wheel spindles it can be retrofitted to existing units as well.

Maybe it is time aircraft manufacturers, and the FAA should consider such systems?
 
Of something costs 5k for a ground vehicle. You can bet it would cost 15k. On a used 150 cessna that can be had for about 50k, what's the benefit?
Pilot needs to do his job and not take pressure to defy science. Not knowing for certain, but my guess is there are way more incidents involving running out of fuel; every legal aircraft has a fuel gauge
 
Also, this would work for total weight, but would not work for balance. You could be working weight limits, but have cg too far aft.
 
waybomb said:
Also, this would work for total weight, but would not work for balance. You could be working weight limits, but have cg too far aft.
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Multiple load cells in the fusaloge could easily give you information on load distribution. Maybe not require it on personal only aircraft, but mandatory if the plane is used to transport people for profit.
 
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