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Another Rant day... :hammer:

Lia

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Food and industry manufacturers are getting away with murder. And, they know it. They’re laughing all the way to the bank. They can do that, because we let them. We are apathetic when it comes to complaining about shoddy goods.

I actually bought a pair of leggings a month or two ago, and when I came to wear them a week ago, when I was out of the country, on a vacation, I found that they had one leg shorter than the other. One expects to be dissatisfied with purchases bought from Matalan, Next, Primark and similar, but one does not expect this type of service or goods from Marks and Sparks, Debenhams, or John Lewis. But, so it is…

Recently, I’ve bought gloves that frayed on their first outing; a pair of slippers, so badly made that the left one kept falling off, or tripping me up because the outer side was a different length on the left shoe, to that of the right shoe (who checks these things)? Fitted sheets, 15 quid a throw, yet the elastic at the corners was so inferior that they don’t survive a couple of washes. Mattress depth of 11” was ordered and purchased, yet when they arrived they were not only far too long, but the depth was 13”.

I’ve bought 3 kettles in as many months and had to return them all (finally got one that doesn’t have an imperfection such as a leaking lid) and none of them were inexpensive. I bought a cooker just over three years ago. It has just recently died. No prizes for guessing the length of the warranty. How do they do that, time it so perfectly? Because I’m convinced that it’s deliberate, and that they’re ‘out to get’ us consumers.

And, Irons! That’s a subject that can make a woman spit feathers. Unless one pays thro the nose (and I have had to go down that road recently, after a succession of failures with various Irons). I recently paid £130ish for my current Iron, and whilst it’s 90% better than the average ones on the market, it still has a couple of quirks; but not enuff to make me wanna scream in frustration now.

I bought, in September I believe, a new toaster; £160. Not worth 160p imho. Outrageous! I haven’t returned that yet, but I will, just as soon as I can get it into the boot alongside all the other shoddy returns. Grrr!! And don’t even get me started on staff who don’t know how to turn the electrical goods on, never mind are unable to tell one anything about the product they are selling; always supposing one can find a member of staff. One often has more chance of assembling a jumbo jet by passing a hurricane thro a junk yard than finding anyone willing or able to assist one in a store these days.

Food manufacturers! It makes no difference, except pricewise, whether one shops at Waitrose, Marks and Sparks, BHS, Tesco’s, Sainsbury’s, or the local Co-operative, the service and goods vary little. Canned foods that are two thirds the product and a third with water (I mean who bothers to complain about that all too frequent con)? And retailers rely on that apathy, trust me. Would it surprise you all to know that the food comes from the same source, but just has a different label? It’s true!

What you may not know is that studies have shown that canned goods are highly dangerous to one’s health, and can even be fatal. Chemicals, used to line canned goods cause cancer in children, and adults, and many other serious illnesses. http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/health/study-finds-dangerous-chemical-in-kids-canned-goods

If you open a tin of food that has a white lining, chuck it straight down the waste disposal; they’re worse than the silver lined cans, but only just. But, how many of us weigh the packs of bacon, cheeses, or other food products that we buy? These can be variable, no matter what the label tells you the weight is. I mean, does one honestly weight anything to test these anomalies? I know I don’t, but I often find inconsistencies in weight levels and volume just thro cooking a product.

Who is accountable for the checking of these consumer goods? Manufacturers don’t seem to care anymore. But, they are assisted in their complacency by apathetic or indifferent consumers. Why is that? And, do you have your own gripes about the commercial industry? Let’s all hear about them…


 
Yes Lia, I have a bunch. Can't put them in print right now as I'm loading the truck for an 8 hour drive. But... I will land eventually and add my .02. :glare:
 
Yes Lia, I have a bunch. Can't put them in print right now as I'm loading the truck for an 8 hour drive. But... I will land eventually and add my .02. :glare:



Then you take care on your journey squerly, and have a great day! I look forward to hearing about your consumer gripes later... :smile:
 
Who is accountable for the checking of these consumer goods? Manufacturers don’t seem to care anymore. But, they are assisted in their complacency by apathetic or indifferent consumers. Why is that? And, do you have your own gripes about the commercial industry? Let’s all hear about them…

No one is held accountable anymore Lia at least in my opinion, the last few decades we have turned into a disposable world of waste and laziness. :doh:

I blame it on the bic lighters and ink pens & it went downhill from there, to disposable diapers, cameras, phones ect . All of these things seem simple, but have been filling our landfills for decades as well causing more danger to our groundwater resources then most of the things the governments try to save us from with over regulating. :sad:

Dont get me started on construction waste, nothing is ever recycled these days, they just bulldoze buildings now after they served there usefullness ( Many times after just a few years ) and haul off the debris to the local landfills. :hammer:

The last instance I remember was a gas station that was tore down due to the fuel tanks leaking and contaminating the ground under it, the fuel tanks were removed but very little cleanup was done after that and it was replaced with a big fancy resturant, which closed within just a few years due to the smell that was coming up from the ground. They bulldozed it and built a shoestore on top of the same location. Common sense & accountability ( much like Elvis ) have left the building I'm afraid. :sad:

:oops:Well you asked . :yum:
 
Bought a box of Aspirin. Once opened, the box was twice the height of the bottle inside, and bottle inside had a wad of cotton that took up 35% of the space inside. Total of 10 aspirin. Same deceptive approach as the potato chip scam.

I love juice, Cranberry, Blueberry, etc. But be careful because many companies will advertise their juice as “Blueberry Juice” 100% Pure Juice, which leaves one to believe that they are actually purchasing 100% Blueberry Juice. But a closer inspection of the ingredients shows that the contents are mostly “Blueberry flavored” apple juice! Deceptive? Hell yes its deceptive! But technically it’s 100% juice and that’s what they advertised. If you want real Blueberry juice you have to look for “100% Blueberry Juice”, not just “Blueberry Juice” that’s 100% juice.

How about Hughes Net? Anyone use this service? The advertisement says download speeds up to 1 megabyte. But people see the “1 Megabyte” and overlook the “Up To” part. And believe me; getting “up to” 1 megabyte download speed is a whole lot different than getting 1 megabyte download speed. Speaking of Hughes Net… how come when you call to order their service you can speak to “John” who speaks fluent English but when you call for support you have to talk to “John” who just started working with the English language last week?

A while back my wife took our car in for service. Part of the service was to put on new brakes and rotate the tires. When she got the bill they had charged her for the brake job and then another $10.00 per tire to rotate the tires. Come on, am I friggen stupid? Guess you can imagine the conversation that took place next…

As mentioned in Lia's original post, how come everything breaks so fast these days or is already broken when you take it out of the box? And how come we are so used to this treatment that we don’t bitch beyond our own doors anymore? We should be going back to the store with a glair in our eyes and demanding to talk to the manager. Drag his ass out on the carpet a few times and they’ll start getting the idea. Apparently it’s OK for us to waste our time driving the defective piece of crap back to the store, so I’m thinking it’s time for the stores to put some of their time into the project too.

Today I saw the “extended warrantee” scam taken to a whole new level. I bought 5 boxes of Christmas Tree lights. Clerk wants to know if I want the extended warrantee. Hell will freeze over first but I ask her how long is the extended warrantee? She says 1 year. The irony of this will hit you if you think about it for a bit…
 
This crap doesn't fly in my family. It's so ingrained in my wife and I that it's rubbing off on the kids.
We were in the Polynesian Resort in Disney World a couple weeks ago and my son wanted to use that machine where it flattens a penny and puts a new design on it. For the record, I objected to him spending the couple quarters to squish a penny but was vetoed by Mrs. Zoom and the "Disney Experience".
He inserts the coins, starts the processing and makes his selection of the new imprint (out of 3 choices). Flattened penny comes out but with the wrong imprint. OK, another 2 quarters and a penny and repeat. Same result of wrong imprint. My 10 year old son says "what a rip-off" and he wants to speak with a manager. Sure enough, off to the customer service desk he goes. They refund him and ask him to try again. Again, it didn't work so back to the desk he goes. I'm getting a bit perturbed that we're wasting all this time over a penny... Finally, he does get his penny with the right print but he wasn't quitting nor getting ripped off.
 
Here's another example of the "Juice Jargon" mentioned above. This is a $4.00 bottle of "Pure Squeezed Orange Juice" Now here's the problem. Common practice is for the pure squeezed juice to be stored (sometimes for a year or so) in million gallon storage containers. To make it "storable" the juice is pasteurized which kills any of the good that it contains, and consequently the vitamins that we buy it for. When the juice is finally package (or bottled) it has lost any flavor that it originally had, and they have to add sweeteners and artificial flavoring back in to get the expected smell and taste. They also add in the vitamins that they advertise as being a benefit of drinking the "Fresh, Pure, Not from Concentrate, Orange Juice.

Notice how cleverly they mention the vitamins . It says "With and excellent source of Calcium and Vitsmin D."



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Here's another example of the "Juice Jargon" mentioned above. This is a $4.00 bottle of "Pure Squeezed Orange Juice" Now here's the problem. Common practice is for the pure squeezed juice to be stored (sometimes for a year or so) in million gallon storage containers. To make it "storable" the juice is pasteurized which kills any of the good that it contains, and consequently the vitamins that we buy it for. When the juice is finally package (or bottled) it has lost any flavor that it originally had, and they have to add sweeteners and artificial flavoring back in to get the expected smell and taste. They also add in the vitamins that they advertise as being a benefit of drinking the "Fresh, Pure, Not from Concentrate, Orange Juice.

Notice how cleverly they mention the vitamins . It says "With and excellent source of Calcium and Vitsmin D."



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Went through this on another site. The things they add are directly extracted from ... (gasp) ORANGES!! I essence
they're putting back what was removed during the pasteurization process. The reason for the long-term
storage is because the juice is a blend of different oranges with different taste components that do not ripen and get
harvested at the same time. This one is a non-issue for me.
 
Went through this on another site. The things they add are directly extracted from ... (gasp) ORANGES!! I essence they're putting back what was removed during the pasteurization process. The reason for the long-term storage is because the juice is a blend of different oranges with different taste components that do not ripen and get harvested at the same time. This one is a non-issue for me.

You’re right; this one isn’t as bad as a lot of them. But look at that big beautiful orange (complete with moisture beads) above the words “pure orange juice”. It’s creating a mental image that this bottled nectar is right off the tree and contains all the freshness and goodness one would expect from such a vibrant product. It screams, “Buy me, I’m fresher, tastier, and healthier that my concentrate counterpart!” Yes, it’s 4 times as expensive but it’s worth it, right?

And that’s a far cry from the actual product, which has had all nutritional value and natural flavor boiled out of it, has been sitting in storage for the last year, and just recently “refreshed” so that it has taste and vitamin substance.

I’m not saying any harm is coming to anyone by drinking it, I’m just saying that the companies who sell us these products use deceptive advertising to justify the price they ask. For all intent and purposes, there is no additional nutritional benefit between the product advertised as “Pure Orange Juice – Not from Concentrate” and the concentrate product you buy for 1/4 the price.
 
vaccuum cleaners are my gripe i remember my mother buying an electrolux when i was youngmy dad was pi$$ed he saw nothing wrong with the kirby we had had since i could remember the electro lux lasted from the time i got through primary school through my teen years dad gave it to me when i got out of the military we used it until i could no longer find baggs now i have a bissle not a cheap machine every 2 years we have to replace it i admit i like the bagless feature as every thing is mail order now that i live in the bush but what happened to thequality we used to buy. i admit the old electrolux was like toting around a tank but it lasted forever
 
This is a good thread on rants and quality!

Nothing is made with the quality to last, everything is designed to wear out sooner than later so you will buy a replacement.

Cars have seats that wear out after so many "sits" even!

Almost all of America's manufacturing has gone overseas for cheaper labor and parts in the items being made.

I don't like buying a package that has almost 75% of it being empty to make you thing you're getting more!

The stores are always trying to sell you a warranty as well. Both because you are scammed into buying something that if it does fail, they are banking on you lost the recept and they won't honor it, or they don't back the products they sell!

Bought a new Chevy Truck that was suppose to get 21 mpg highway and up to 25 mph. Never got above 18 mpg and took it to the dealship thinking maybe something was set up on it wrong. Was told "oh, it only does that when it's above 70 degrees". No place on the advertising does it say that and where I live in Alaska does it maybe get that hot a week or two a year. Had I known that I would have kept my older truck... They didn't lie, they just weren't honest!

This could be a really big thread!
 
This is a good thread on rants and quality!


Bought a new Chevy Truck that was suppose to get 21 mpg highway and up to 25 mph. Never got above 18 mpg and took it to the dealship thinking maybe something was set up on it wrong. Was told "oh, it only does that when it's above 70 degrees". No place on the advertising does it say that and where I live in Alaska does it maybe get that hot a week or two a year. Had I known that I would have kept my older truck... They didn't lie, they just weren't honest!

This could be a really big thread!

What engine do you have?? If it's the 5.3 8/4, you've got what you'll get.
 
What engine do you have?? If it's the 5.3 8/4, you've got what you'll get.

Yeah, it's the 5.3, but it is advertised as 16 city/21 Hwy with flex fuel. My son bought the same 2011 1/2 ton truck with a shortbed version, same engine and it is rated for 14 city/18 highway, but his isn't the flex fuel version, and he gets that mileage.

Was pretty PO'd at the mileage, wasn't even close to advertized, bought a new Ford Focus that was suppose to get 34 MPG highway, but mostly on the highway get around 39 to 40 MPG, far exceeds that same guidelines on the sticker.

My next Truck will be a Ford, just tired of the other two making up claims for mileage they don't even come close to when you put out tens of thousands of dollars for a sub standard POS.... At least the Ford does what they said it would do and then some.
 
Foggy, does yours have starting issues in cold weather? The reason I ask is because a friend of mine had a 2010 with the 5.3 Sitting outside at work, it, often timed the starter out when using the Astro Start. Would take a second attempt at starting. It would stumble around, briefly, then even out at normal idle. Dealer blamed the fuel blend. He burned 10% ethanol, 90% gasoline.
 
I go into Dodges to pick up some beer. Back at the cold beverage area there are a few hundred 5X7 cards with "I donated to XXX" with XXX being the particular charity of the day and each one of them signed by someone who had donated a dollar or two.

Next to all these cards was a picture of the Dodges chicken holding a big check (the size of the hood on my truck) made out for $10,000.00, and standing in front of a big sign that said "Lovingly donated by Dodges, partnering with XXX to find a cure".

I took my brew to the cash station where there are a few hundred more such cards. Clerk asks me if I want to donate a dollar to XXX charity. I said no, I think I’ll bypass Dodges and send it directly to XXX charity. She looked at me like I had 2 heads or something.

So here’s the part that pisses me off. All day long people come through the store and get pressured into donating a buck or two to XXX charity. Dodges then takes all this money, creates a symbolic check and standing in front of the local news camera they accept credit for donating $10,000.00 to xxx charity.

They didn’t donate shit. 10,000 people that came into the store donated the money. But nowhere do they give mention of that. Dodges takes the credit.

Really pisses me off.
 
Foggy, does yours have starting issues in cold weather? The reason I ask is because a friend of mine had a 2010 with the 5.3 Sitting outside at work, it, often timed the starter out when using the Astro Start. Would take a second attempt at starting. It would stumble around, briefly, then even out at normal idle. Dealer blamed the fuel blend. He burned 10% ethanol, 90% gasoline.


Sorry I didn't answer sooner.... Been kinda busy!

No, my truck in the cold hasn't had any cold starting issues this last winter or the last half of the 10/11 season. I use Mobil 1 synthetic and it sits outside at
-60 and -50 all the time, much of the time it is plugged in, but it sits out as well and has always started and ran well.
 
Stopped on the way home to buy some beer and while waiting to pay I fell victim to the tray of candy that is strategically placed where they know you will have to look at it a while. Ordinarily I don't fall for such bait but this time I spotted my childhood favorite... REDHOTS! And I bought em!

Couldn't even wait to get home and broke into them in the truck. This is where the reality that you've been scammed sits in and disappointment turns to anger.

The box of red hots was 7" high and 4" wide. The bag of candy inside was 5" high and 3" wide. And the candy (red hots) took up 3" of the 5" plastic bag.

So inside my 7" high box was 3" of candy! WTF? That's not just deceptive marketing, that's downright criminal. Now if you don't see the same degree of disappointment that I do, or you're thinking I'm making too big a deal out of nothing, I suggest you tell your next date you've got a "red hot" 7" for her, and then only put 3" in the box...

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Pisses you off, doesn't it?
Felt that way when I opened a bag of Lay's potato chips (small one).
Said bigger bag.
Yep, bigger bag, same or less amount of chips.
 
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