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A war story

ghautz

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I visited with a family friend, the widow of a WWII veteran, a few days ago. She related some stories of her husband's experiences during the war that I found interesting. One in particular left an impression.

Near the conclusion of the hostilities in the Pacific, there were a number of known Japanese POW camps to be freed. General McArthur wanted the glory of freeing these camps, leading his select troops. However, for reasons I don't know, would not or could not do it until after the formal surrender. Navy personnel chose not to wait for fear of what might happen to the prisoners in the mean time. A group of sailors, my friend among them, was trained and sent on the mission. One of the officers was Harold Stassen, a big name in pre- and post-war politics, for those of you who might not know. They were frequently under fire, sometimes going in the front gate of the prisons as the Japanese exited via the rear. They successfully freed many prisoners.

My friend, Bud, talked with some of the prisoners, who related an interesting story. Their job as prisoners had been to load rice onto ships, under the direction of a civilian who lived in a shack near the pier. There was a tin can at the edge of the pier, with a string that led to that shack. As each prisoner passed with a load, he would drop a grain of rice into the can. The next day one half of that rice, cooked, would be in the can for them. This was an informal arrangement without the knowledge of the Japanese. One time, just to see what would happen, the prisoners carefully counted the grains and made sure an odd number were in the can. The next day they counted the cooked rice and found the odd grain had been returned to them.

When they were freed, these men insisted that they meet with that civilian before leaving. Bud and some others escorted them, bringing food and other supplies as gifts. There were three generations living in that shack, under rather unpleasant conditions. They were so grateful for the gifts that they insisted that the sailors and prisoners celebrate with a meal prepared with the food they brought. There was no polite way to refuse. Bud said that eating that meal was one of the hardest things he ever did, because he knew there was no way those dishes had been washed for a long time.

After the war, Harold Stassen worked hard trying to get some recognition for the men who had freed those prisoners, but McArthur pulled enough political strings to prevent it. Learning about this has further strengthened my dislike for the man.
 
daedong said:
I din't think the Australian diggers had much time for General Douglas MacArthur.

ghautz said:
From what I have heard the US troops had a low opinion of him, too.

Do doubt about it....... MacArthur was controversial figure.

Let’s not forget, MacArthur was 61 years old when Roosevelt called him out of retirement.

That old man was ordered to fight the Japs, and was also ordered to build Australian morale as he successfully defended Australia from invasion.

After MacArthur won the Pacific war, he was given the chore of rebuilding Japan.

After he succeeded in doing that, MacArthur was again ordered to fight the North Koreans.

MacArthur was 71 years old when he sent the North Koreans retreating in disarray after the daring and overwhelmingly successful amphibious landing behind North Korean lines in the Battle of Inchon.

I don’t recall MacArthur ever being ordered to make friends and have people like him.

MacArthur is probably looking down on us right now smiling and knowing that he did his duty by protecting our freedom to criticize him.
 
I haven't heard anyone complain about his military capabilities. Two or three people told me he took his Fililpino servants with him when he retreated from the Philippines, leaving US troops behind to face certain defeat at the hands of the Japanese. I don't know how many more troops could have been evacuated, but the incident certainly did not set well with the GIs.
 
ghautz said:
I haven't heard anyone complain about his military capabilities.

That was "only" his job. Apparently that's not enough.

My employees never complained about a bad paycheck.

My coustomers never complained about my performance or capabilities.

My family never missed a meal.

I help people in need.

I'm even kind to animals.

But, I still get criticized because I'm not a warm, fuzzy guy.

Perhaps we should dig up MacArthur's corpse and hold an auto-da-fe.
 
ghautz said:
I haven't heard anyone complain about his military capabilities. Two or three people told me he took his Fililpino servants with him when he retreated from the Philippines, leaving US troops behind to face certain defeat at the hands of the Japanese. I don't know how many more troops could have been evacuated, but the incident certainly did not set well with the GIs.

Well how dare he! Next your going to tell me he told dirty jokes, drink alcohol, and like looking at pictured of naked women!

What is it with our generation that insists on digging up dirt on people that proved themselves to be competent? It's like we don't want our heroes to be true heroes? No one is 100% perfect - we all have flaws. If MacArthur was a great general then that is what he was good at. Maybe he wasn't nice to the people around him but that stuff needs to be overlooked when dealing with big picture.

I'm kind of bitchy today, excuse me.
 
PBinWA said:
Well how dare he! Next your going to tell me he told dirty jokes, drink alcohol, and like looking at pictured of naked women!

What is it with our generation that insists on digging up dirt on people that proved themselves to be competent? It's like we don't want our heroes to be true heroes? No one is 100% perfect - we all have flaws. If MacArthur was a great general then that is what he was good at. Maybe he wasn't nice to the people around him but that stuff needs to be overlooked when dealing with big picture.

I'm kind of bitchy today, excuse me.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to destroy your hero (or bolster my ego, Fred). He was undoubtedly a great general, but apparently not one who inspired those under him, judging from what I have heard about his popularity.

I did a bit of research and found an account of his departure from the Philippines. It differs a bit from what I had been told, though the last couple of paragraphs could be the basis of the rumors I heard.

http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/macarthur.htm
 
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