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A good auger

dzalphakilo

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Looking for me and the misses to lay in some fence posts.

Dave N, down the road, I'll be asking you about fencing for horses, however at this point, looking at laying in 6"x6' post with some 12" posts for corner posts. Came across a customers gas auger and he loves it, got it at Northern Tool, however when I looked, they did not have the same model he had.

Any reccomendations as far as a power auger goes? First round down the road is about 4 acres out back for the dogs, then perhaps 16 acres for some rescue horses (have to rip the barbed wire and older square post out first).

Thks
 
I rented a hand held 2 man auger and beat myself black and blue.

Now I use a tractor mounted Speeco brand with 9" and 12" augers. I think the price with one auger was under $400 a few years ago. No clue what they sell for today.

However what I know is that using a hand auger I was able to put in about 20 holes a day and I was sore for a week after the fact. Using a tractor mounted auger I can put in a hole every 5 or 10 minutes, including the time it takes to drive to the new site and position the auger bit. I still get sore using the tractor mounted auger if I drill a lot of holes, but that is only from looking over my shoulder.
 
Depending on how many posts you have to set, I would highly suggest you investigate renting a hydraulic fence post driver. Even with a 3PH tractor auger, setting fence posts is a lot of work.

If you have the $$$, I would suggest Flex-Fence from Ramm Fencing.
 
Bob, I don't believe DZ has a tractor that has a 3PH.

DZ - I would say the easiest/fastest (and over the long haul, cheapest) approach is to get someone in there with an auger on a skidsteer. They can bore a hole in under a minute. For 4 acres, they can be in-and-out in a few hours. It'll save you a lot of time and aggrevation.
 
bczoom said:
DZ - I would say the easiest/fastest (and over the long haul, cheapest) approach is to get someone in there with an auger on a skidsteer. They can bore a hole in under a minute. For 4 acres, they can be in-and-out in a few hours. It'll save you a lot of time and aggrevation.

I agree, the skid steer is much easier and faster.

Here's a pic from a couple of years ago when we were installing a fence around the house.

Jim
 

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So, does nobody like a T post?
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elsmitro said:
So, does nobody like a T post?
I do but DZ didn't note it as an option.

Actually, can you tell us more about your plans DZ? What are you using for fencing material?
 
elsmitro said:
So, does nobody like a T post?

I have several hundred T-Posts set on my property. They are super simple to install in the spring when the soil is damp. Two people and a tractor with a FEL can set many many t-posts in a day (one person positions the post, the other presses them into the ground with the FEL).
 
Long range planning, one area for the dogs (lower back), and perhaps two areas for horses (WAY down the road).

House sits with about 8 acres of land around it (mowing, areating, fertilizing issues that I've mentioned) with a creek in the back. On the backside of the house to the creek has about 14 acres, across the creek up to the tree line is about another 16 acres. Any "pasture" that you can see is what I have to work with.

Very long story, I leased the land (30 acres) to a farmer who did NOTHING other than bush hog it once a year (actually, he bushed hogged it one time in three years). Last straw was a couple of months ago when he normally shows up unnanounced and created some havoc with the dogs (for three years he bush hogged it one time, and I asked around, felt like I was being taken advantage of for what he was making using the cattle).

The first picture gives you an idea of where I want to put the fence in for the dogs. Planning on running the fence to your left of our well (which you can see, towards you from the light) and perhaps about 15 yards up from the tree line. The tree line in the middle of the pic is the creek. The tree line that you see up on top of the pic is the "secondary" fence that I may run for horses down the road.

Well, I have one fenced in area that I paid to have put up for three dogs (our own, did not start with the Humane Society yet). Paid about $1300 for 3" post along with 4" end post with one 4' gate and one 8' gate.

Looking at the porperty, and now having 9 dogs (six in foster care, but hey, they might as well be ares unless if someone is intereste:)). Since I don't have cattle to deal with, want to make a large run area in the back just for the dogs. Square, enough away from the creek that when and if I get a tractor, I can cut on both sides of the fence.

The scond pic is right above the burn pile I did over the weekend. This is around where I plan on putting a corner post. Brian, that Stihl backpack blower did wonders with that burn pile, let me tell you!

The third pic is looking towards the area where I'll put in the dog fence. The creek is behind me in this pic. Go out about 30 yards from this pic, take a left and go up a steep hill, there you will find the house. You notice what looks like a road, it is, goes across a smaller creek and up a hill to two other secondary fields (thats where I hunt).

Fencing materials will be electric fence (I'm planning). Yes, will need to look at how low I can run the wire, but thinking about laying something "low" so the dogs can't get underneath.

Honestly, guy who had the auger made it sound easy. Now that I'm over 40, have had bad shoulders when I was younger and it's catching up to me where I can feel it. I probably will bag on trying to do it myself.

The last pic is pretty much standing in the middle of where I plan on putting a fence.

In the first, second and fourth pic, you can see the area that I may plan on for horses (beyond the first tree line at the creek). We've gotten involved with a local equine rescue group, and the fact is we have land that is now not being used for anything (primary reason for buying it is so we owned it and could do what we want). Working with this equine rescue group, sooner or later we will put a couple of horses out there. Currently there everything is behind barbed wire, which will need to come out. Of course perhaps looking at some outbuildings for any horses, but again, long rang planning (we got involved with the local law enforcement agency on horse abuse with our positions with the Humane Society, so this is something we know well end up doing down the road).

Question I have about the t-posts is how long will they last? Honestly, would like something that will stay around for some time. Thinking that 3" running post about 40'-50' apart with 6" corner post using electric wire should suffice for the horses, and honestly, the cheapest way I can think of doing it other than those t-posts.

3 years at this place and I met a couple of you over at the other place. Fact is I still don't have a tractor, won't finance one, and everytime I think I may have enough for a decent used one or a new 40 hp plus with attachements, something else comes up and there goes the money:cry:

My wife and I know nothing about farming, and we could be living a pipe dream, but we believe we should "rotate" the land and not abuse it year after year utilizing just one spot (as the farmer seem to do with feeding all of those cattle). The fenced in area is really starting to get beat up and I want to make another area for the dogs so I can move them and try to take care of the lawn in the fenced in area.
 

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Forgot, this is the fenced in area that I had paid to do.

Looking at same type of fence, but with electricity.

Keep in mind, out back I will plan on putting numerours gates for travel either by truck of perhaps tractor WAY down the road.

This picture is taken on the upper level, on the side of the house. The fields in the pictures are down a hill directly beind the fenced area to the left in this pic.

The second pic (the attachement) is the first pic I ever posted with the new digital camera on this forum from the kitchen porch to give you an idea of what the place looks like in the summer time.

With the famer gone, I'm already thinking about how I'm going to take care of the "brush" in the summer time that you don't see now.

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You know, when I see that picture (attachment), I wonder why in the hell I even worry about the lawn in the first place, I guess it always looks like crap in the winter time.
 

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Have a bad cold and sore sholders, took some meds, re read my post, I'm not as dumb as I write, I assure you (yeah, right you're thinking).
 
T-Posts will work fine for your fencing. As for life expectancy of the posts, I would say they would outlast you. There's clips that wrap around the post and connect the fence.

Regarding the electric fence, I would like to propose that you keep it about 12-18" inside the mesh fence and about the 12-16" off the ground. Exact measurements are based on dog sizes. If you mount it off the same posts, it may not be as effective. Here's my reasoning. If it's mounted to close to the main fence, a dog that jumps on the fence will have its rear legs (and belly) away from the fence and probably won't come in contact with the ele. fence wire. If you want to stop the dogs from burrowing under the fence (and the ele. wire is sharing the same post), you'll need to have it very close to the ground for them to contact it. Probably 6-8". Being that low, you'll have a maintenance nightmare since you need to keep the grass from growing into the wire otherwise it'll short out when the grass is wet. So, by being away from the main fence, it'll catch their belly if they jump on the fence and will catch their head/back if they try to burrow under it.

They make either steel or PVC posts that are about 2' long for stringing the electric fence wire. A decent charger (for dogs) has about a mile range so doing 4 acres won't be an issue. DON'T use a charger made for cows or horses in your dog pen. It's way too much current for a dog size animal. A dog charger will have around around 600-900 volts. Chargers made for large animals can easily reach over 10,000 volts.
 
bczoom said:
It's way too much current for a dog size animal. A dog charger will have around around 600-900 volts. Chargers made for large animals can easily reach over 10,000 volts.

Thanks Brian, still not sure what type of charger I want to look at, either hard wired or solar. Currently in the fenced in area for the dogs I have a minimum of 5k volts going through the wire. The dogs do stay away from it after one touce (hey, I always thought it was the amps that get you, not the voltage:)) The issue in the back field is what type of other animals I may have/get. I'm planning on trying to "compartmentize" the back fields for different uses and able to rotate areas of use.

That skid steer looks like a real good idea.

This may be a dumb question, but the two different pics by elsmitro look like two different products. Are t posts considered "plain jane" metal rods with hooks?

Off topic, but how many acres should you have for one horse?

Then again, any rescues that we would look at, I'm sure would recieve adequate treatment.
 
In general, a T-post is a T-post is a T-post. They're all about the same. They do come in different lengths though.

If you're thinking of compartmentalizing, those T-posts may work very well for that as well. You can put up about 100' of fence using T-posts in an hour or 2.

I'd start a whole new thread to discuss horses.
 
bczoom said:
In general, a T-post is a T-post is a T-post. They're all about the same.

No no no no no they are not. There are various weights of T-posts, and the vast majority of the clips are sized for the mid-weight or light weight ones, and will not fit on the heavy duty ones. It puts a real crimp in your day to realize you don't have clips that fit the 200 posts you just pounded into the hard earth.

There are also "T-posts" that are not T shaped at all, they are like a squared off U with wings. I have never seen a clip at all that fits those.
 
Thanks Dave. I stand corrected. I haven't seen any heavy-duty T-posts in ages so I thought they weren't being made anymore.
 
bczoom said:
Thanks Dave. I stand corrected. I haven't seen any heavy-duty T-posts in ages so I thought they weren't being made anymore.

I can't say they are being made anymore either. When we bought the farm, there were almost 1000 T-posts stacked in the barn that we have been using. Some are heavy-duty, and some are U-posts and some are "normal" T-posts.
 
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